It's amazing how many people are defending the double standard.

So, if Kerry ment something different from what he said than he's saying that Bush is not intelligent? They both went to Yale. Do you know who had higher grades? Which one is currently the president of the United States of America?

I guess to some of you it sounded like he was talking about Bush not being intelligent. I've listened a bunch of times and every time it sound like he's saying that it's uneducated people defending our country. I for one have a ton of respect and pride for the men and women in our military. I don't care if they didn't score the highest on the SAT's or if they didn't get accepted into Yale. They are brave as hell and deserve a ton of respect. I believe that they are taking part in something historic. Many of you think that this effort in Iraq is a waste. I think it's about as much a waste as the US involvement in WWII. It took fourty years to reap the benefits. So many people these days want a quick fix. Our military are in Iraq busting thier asses every day so that some day, could be fourty years, there will be some order in the middle east and we wont have to be concerned that terrorists are going to try to make a statement by killing thousands of innocent civillian Americans.

I believe that Kerry shows the arrogence of the party he represents. I'm tired of it. I don't like partisan politics but I dislike the arrogence and attitude I see from people like Kerry even more. It's a shame that people like that may end up running our country.

 

I think Bill Clinton wrote that for him.

I'm still waiting for someone to propose a different strategy for Iraq and the War on Terrorism/Islamic extremism. Something other than... "You're doing that all wrong. You're a moron." That's real helpful isn't it.

 

If he was a real patriot, he would hand over that "plan" he kept talking about during the election.

 

This reminds me of the negative ad on Kerry, windsurfing and changing direction every few seconds. I believe the tag line was

"John Kerry, whichever way the wind blows"

See it here http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6071148/


It appears to be true!

The polls must have come in and he now knows what to do, apologize. Would have been nice to do the right thing immediately instead of waiting for public opinion. This guy is seriously flawed.

He states the gop is twisting what he said, he said it period, didn't need any twisting!

 

Our beloved senator, Mr. Kerry.

 

It does not balance out. Years ago you didn't need a high school diploma to join the armed forces. Today you do. Those who can't afford or qualify for college go in the military. This is where the poor and minorities come into play. While there are still more whites in the service the minority population is increasing. The Hispanic and women population in the military I'm sure is growing by what I see. The military considers the educated those with college. Those with college are commisioned. Those with HS diplomas are enlisted. The enlisted far out number the commisioned.

And who got deferments back during the draft? It wasn't the poor, the uneducated or the minorities.

 

I would like to take this oppurtunity to apologize for any of my posts in this thread that may have offended any person, animal, plant or inanimate object.

My words were probably misconstrued by the Right Wing.
Nethertheless, it was not my intention to offend.

In closing, all civil discourse should be welcomed and embraced as it can only better our society, our political process and our Country. And I want those who lean to the Right to know, in no uncertain terms,

we're gonna get u sucka!

 

I personally will not apologize, or maybe I will, or I will retract my apology after I apologize, for offending anyone on this subject, because I was personally offended by both Kerry's remarks (we all know what he really meant.. a joke about Bush doesnt make any sense in the context), and those who agree with him. I have an IQ of 144, have 2 college degrees, come from a 6 figure earning family (which once again, is completely irrelevent), have proudly served in the US Army, and am currently serving in the Air National Guard. I like my job, love my country, volunteered to be stuck in Iraq, and probably earn more than the median income on this board, although I dont care to put anyone down. The people I work with in the military, by and large, are some of the most intelligent, finest people in the world.

Cheers

 

Nobody has suggested anything. It's very simple, simply listen to Kerry and his words, or read them. Any way you look or listen to it Kerry thinks anybody in the military is a moron, it was NOT a joke, it was NOT something he did NOT mean to say, he said what he said and he meant it.

It's a well known fact Kerry can't stand any body who serves in the military, first he called them terrorist and now he thinks they are a bunch on morons so now we have terrorist that are morons who are serving over seas to protect some moron like Kerry to speak his mind, state his opinon, his first amendment right which he clearly exercised by telling those who protect him they are all a bunch of uneducated morons...

When will he actually accuse them of raping? Perhaps those today are not bright enough to rape like Kerry's buddies of the 60's and 70's, he sure loved the military back then as well. Stick a fork in Kerry because he is all done he will NEVER be President nor will he ever be nominated by his own party...

Maybe he did mean to say what he meant before he meant to say it, kind of like I voted for it before I voted against it, good ol' John F'n Kerry continues to prove he is actually a moron and said what many democrats would love to say but are not as stupid as Kerry is to actually say it...

 

Nope, that's not what Kerry was talking about because Bush IS smarter then Kerry. As sad as that may make some people feel Bush has a BETTER education and is smarter then Kerry.

Kerry meant one thing and one thing only and that was those in the military are f'n idiots who don't know jack about anything and since they are so stupid they are now in Iraq.

Kerry has a record, over 20 years old on how he REALLY feels about the military and the asshat slipped up and let his true feelings out...

His apology is for STUPID Americans as well because he can't help that most Americans are so stupid they couldn't figure out what he really meant. He NEVER stated "I am sorry for what I said" but rather "I am sorry so many Americans are as stupid as those in the military and misunderstood what I said"...

Typical liberal who thinks he knows whats best for the vast majority of Americans that are to stupid to know better...

 

You have needed a HS diploma for at least the last 26 years. When I joined in 1982 you HAD to have a diploma. When Kerry was in 60's & 70's you did NOT need a diploma...

I will tell you this when you put up a person in the military or who has been in the military against someone who has never been in you will find the one who has more responsibility, has more solid values and can generally be trusted on their word ALONE is the person from the military…

Many people from the military and in the military can run circles around those with all these goofy degrees because the fact of the matter is just about anybody can get a degree today, there really not that hard or difficult and now days a degree really don’t mean that much other then someone somehow could find a way to pass a test with a “passing” grade.

I have seen this first hand at the three different companies we own and that is someone coming in with a degree is not looked at any higher then someone without. Granted when both appear equal the degree person gets it but if you ask me that’s pretty damn sad…

So, those who have degree’s please hold back on the back patting because degrees don’t mean a whole hell of a lot today, party on…

 

Oh really?

A College Degree Nearly Doubles Annual Earnings.

The U.S. Census Bureau has released data proving the substantial value of a college education in the United States. Workers 18 and over sporting bachelors degrees earn an average of $51,206 a year, while those with a high school diploma earn $27,915. But wait, there's more. Workers with an advanced degree make an average of $74,602, and those without a high school diploma average $18,734.

 

The military/nonmilitary responsibility thing comes up a lot at work. There is a lot to be said about military service.

I only have a HS diploma. No college. I make 6 figures but it is only because of my military training. I'm retiring next year at age 53. If not for my 6 years in the Air Force I don't know where I'd be today. I tried to get both my sons to enlist. But they're not interested. Said they don't wanna be told what to do!!! OOOOOOOkay.

 

This could be the end of Kerry's political career. I still don't understand how he could have said this to make it sound like a joke on GW. I guess this is what they call political suicide. I wish he would change party's before turning out the lights!

 

a college degree doesnt double income. My ex wife has a degree. I make considerably more than she does. We have people with MASTERS degrees answering phones @ my work making 25k a year. Simply having a degree doesnt mean squat.