Other than being beholden to a tin foil helmet.......

What freedom did you have 6yrs ago that you do not have right now?

 

I'll use smaller words for you nest time mmmkay?

The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

You forgot to tell those old dead guys that. I by virtue of being born a free American am so endowed with 'certain unalienable rights', as is every other American citizen.

Snoopy, I was tracking OBL through the desert months before 9-11-2001, save you rhetoric for someone more ignorant than yourself for you know not whereof you speak.

Yeah, those pesky rights, laws, court decisions, BoR, Constitution are out dated, we should get rid of them all. Look up 'legal precedence' and read the definition. The stuff going down today sets a horrible precedence for the future. We're goose-stepping towards a police state and you're singing cadence.

It's not about whether or not they can monitor everyone 24/7, they have no right to proceed the way they are.

 

For one 'Unreasonable search and seizure'. The justice dept has declared that they can do a 'sneak and peak' into your life, your car, your home, your busienss transactions, etc and not even have to tell you for 90 days afterward.

 

This happened to you? When and state the case....

 

I never said that it happened to me, but it does answer your question of "What freedom did you have 6yrs ago that you do not have right now?"

 

When they came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out

 

Thanks Raoul, I was going to post that later. I'm sure we see many things far differently, but on this subject I belive we're on the same page.

 

I ain't gonna speak out for you, commie!

 

Then I shall remain silent when they come for the goat herders.

 

No read my question again.....

It really is unreasonable that somebody would be so distressed over a terrorists rights......

You could most likely ask the surviving family members of 9-11 (All 4 incidents) How many rights they lost that day........

Without havening a defensive strategy you will lose more rights than you could ever think of....

 

And where did this happen????

 

Do you not understand your own question? That is a right that we have all lost. 3,000 dead Americans does not validate tossing out the principles upon which this country was founded.

Please explain.

 

It is a poem attributed to Martin Niemöller, Germany around 1937.

Before the histerics begin about making such a comparison, not everyone had a telephone or computer in that day.

I read above about only the terrorists having anything to fear from the governments activities today and saw the similarities to such reasoning.

 

Everyone has SOMETHING to hide.

 

Ohh I understand my question quite well....

You say you have lost your rights.....as in....

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I said "When"????? You say

So what have you lost that you didn't have 6yrs ago....NOTHING..NADA>>>ZIP

I would venture to say that you don't even know anyone that has had their rights violated in this manner....

I love it how people scream that they are losing their rights but in reality they are advocating in the name of "civil liberties" is that this country doesn't have any right to protect itself and or its citizens....

What you have is an Al Quada bill of rights.....Giving them "rights" to operate within these borders autonomously without any tools to detect them.....

So if you think your losing your rights now.....Just wait until you have to think twice about walking into a crowded shopping mall....or train station...or airport....or worry about your wife and kids while they are at a school function.......

Be carfull about what you ask for, you might just get it....