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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 02:47 AM
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Just think, that crop could represent thousands in tax revenue for the government and a decent income for the grower.

If it was legalized, It would probably sell for about $3.99 for a 50 lb bag.

He wouldnt have a chance in hell of making any money at it because he wouldnt be able to undercut the prices of the pot at Wal-Mart. So he would probably have to find some other scam. Like stealing car stereos or some thing.

The Federal government should be looking out for my best interest, leave the profiteering to the corporations.
 

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 03:18 AM
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The most elaborate grow op i have heard of was on the big island of Hawaii.

Kona bud.

Towards south point there was a grow op that was built in to a lava tube,(when lava flows it can develope a top crust and when the flow stops the centre runs out creating a long tunnel).

This grow op was sealed into the lava tube with steel doors and a poured in place concrete wall. The grow area was large enough that the owners had installed the lights on tracks than ran perpinduclar to the tunnel. There was in the front area a deisel generator and air scrubbers. Other than the concrette inbedded door there was no hint of what was going on. There was no noise or smell.

The cops were tipped off to the operation.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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Your an idiot.
Grow up child.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Podunk
If it was legalized, It would probably sell for about $3.99 for a 50 lb bag.

He wouldnt have a chance in hell of making any money at it because he wouldnt be able to undercut the prices of the pot at Wal-Mart. So he would probably have to find some other scam. Like stealing car stereos or some thing.

The Federal government should be looking out for my best interest, leave the profiteering to the corporations.
Considering the billions of dollars spent on failed drug prohibition policies in general, do you really think the feds are looking out for your best interests now?

But you do bring up a valid point, legalization would be the simplest. most effective means of dealing with any issues of crime involved with the marijuana trade. At least real problems like organized criminal involvement. Take away their profit, and organized crime disappears. Current law enforcement efforts have only served to increase the involvement of organized criminal elements and guaranteed them a healthy profit.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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He is simply stating the truth, and you don't agree with him.

So that makes him the idiot?

Better check yourself.

He's a cop, why would you expect him to behave any differently. He'd have to admit he might be part of the problem.
 

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kretinus
Just think, that crop could represent thousands in tax revenue for the government and a decent income for the grower.

Instead the bust will result in no benefit to society and the final cost of prosecution and incarceration will be far in excess of the value of the crop and any imagined harm to society.

And the law enforcement people involved will most likely go to a bar, enjoy their drug and slap themselves on the back and drive home under the influence.

Ain't America great !
edited- I'm not lowering myself to your standard.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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He's a cop, why would you expect him to behave any differently. He'd have to admit he might be part of the problem.
Cops don't write the laws. Only enforce. If MJ is legalized by the people then, it will no longer be an issue. But Police Officers have an obligation to uphold the law that is written by the people.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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alls I know is that would be a kick *** house to own... (without the pot and stuff) you could have an indoor gun range... or freaking kick butt theatre or pool tables and cards with your buddies, even bbq down there with the ventilation, all kinds of crazy stuff... hell I could just build yourself a car ramp down into the tunnel and have my very own bat cave for my 1 fiddy and the wifey's jeep and still have room for the riding lawnmower and my 1971 f100. That way I wouldn't have to keep clearing all my wife's random crap out of the garage... she could just have it!!! SWEET.... I want one...

Casey
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by expy03
Cops don't write the laws. Only enforce. If MJ is legalized by the people then, it will no longer be an issue. But Police Officers have an obligation to uphold the law that is written by the people.
Cops are required to enforce the law, I agree. However, the fact that someone disagrees with that law does not make them an idiot and law enforcement people that have such an attitude should be taken with a grain of salt and then some, such an attitude goes beyond the scope of their job into things like attempting to intimidate people into silence if they disagree with law.
 

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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You, my friend, are a moron. I would love to know what's on your record.
Grow up child
 

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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And the law enforcement people involved will most likely go to a bar, enjoy their drug and slap themselves on the back and drive home under the influence
You started the cop bashing. If you want to express your feelings about the law, that's fine.

You set the tone of this thread. You group all cops in one basket. Wouldn't be any different if I grouped all stoners in one basket. But I don't. Nor would I consider all "speeders" to be criminals. People make mistakes. We have a momentary laps in judgement that while may be against the law as written by the people, can be delt with in different ways.


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You, my friend, are a moron. I would love to know what's on your record.
Everything is public record. Very easy to find.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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You started the cop bashing. If you want to express your feelings about the law, that's fine.
You're right, I didn't word that very well. But the fact is many cops use a drug that by the governments own evidence is far more dangerous than marijuana, as do many people. When I hear cops extoll the virtues of busting someone for smoking a joint, while having a shot at the bar ....

Originally Posted by expy03
You set the tone of this thread. You group all cops in one basket
So you're telling me that there are cops who sit around after a marijuana bust and actually question the benefit of what they did?

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Wouldn't be any different if I grouped all stoners in one baske. But I don't
Don't you? The laws you enforce make you do just that don't they. If you truly don't believe that doing so is the right thing to do, at the very least shouldn't you be one of the first people to stand up and say something?

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Nor would I consider all "speeders" to be criminals. People make mistakes. We have a momentary laps in judgement that while may be against the law as written by the people, can be delt with in different ways.
In Iowa, simple possession is a misdemeanor, meaning that the officer on the scene has the statuatory discretion of either issuing a summons or making an arrest. Obviously an arrest has far more immediate negative impact on the individual, it costs the state more in time and resources, it clogs the courts, but I have yet to see a case where a summons was issued as opposed to an arrest, that lack of discretion would seem to indicate that at least in Iowa, the cops don't think like you.

In fact a sherrif who publicly stated that his department would no longer arrest people for simple possession was immediately condemned by his peers.

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Everything is public record. Very easy to find.
So the insinuation of course is that someone can expose my arrest record in an attempt to silence me or discredit me. I believe if you look at the laws concerning public records, such a thing might be construed as being in violation of those laws, odd that people who are sworn to uphold the law would even discuss such a thing in any terms other than condemnation.

Is this the kind of things that's supposed to "open my mind"
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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So you're telling me that there are cops who sit around after a marijuana bust and actually question the benefit of what they did?
Yes. Knowing full well that while, for instance the above bust is considered huge, it will not stop the problem. Nor will it stop the use of MJ. Cops get tired of arresting the same guy over and over, just to have the courts release or throw out the charge.

Don't you? The laws you enforce make you do just that don't they. If you truly don't believe that doing so is the right thing to do, at the very least shouldn't you be one of the first people to stand up and say something?
Police Officers vote too!

In Iowa, simple possession is a misdemeanor, meaning that the officer on the scene has the statuatory discretion of either issuing a summons or making an arrest. Obviously an arrest has far more immediate negative impact on the individual, it costs the state more in time and resources, it clogs the courts, but I have yet to see a case where a summons was issued as opposed to an arrest, that lack of discretion would seem to indicate that at least in Iowa, the cops don't think like you.

In fact a sherrif who publicly stated that his department would no longer arrest people for simple possession was immediately condemned by his peers.
Most states have gone to a mis charge. It is still a felony, but can be charged as a mis as so directed by the prosecutor. Trust me, if a Police Officer can just write a ticket and not have to go to all of the trouble of booking someone, he will. To much paper work! But the public speaks and is listened to. Just as your Sheriff was condemned by his peers for wanting to reduce the work load of his deputies.

So the insinuation of course is that someone can expose my arrest record in an attempt to silence me or discredit me. I believe if you look at the laws concerning public records, such a thing might be construed as being in violation of those laws, odd that people who are sworn to uphold the law would even discuss such a thing in any terms other than condemnation
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Absolutely not. Just a statement. Besides, something tells me that you don't silence very well. I encourage people all the time to use the public record availible to them. I'm sure that you have used it in the past as well. Every citizen has the right to know. Unless I have an ongoing investigation, everything is public record. Most can be found in newspapers. Those guys have the request for information on their computer and print those out by the hundreds everyday. Every agency has personal on hand just to answer and reply to public information request. Every court is required to publish and make available to the public all documents generated by that court. I have had people want to ask me about their neighbors. Instead of using my resources, which would be illegal except during a lawful investigation, I encourgage them to use their right to information and seek all available public information. It's out there and it's legal.

Great country we live in isn't it.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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I'll second that notion.

All in favor say I...

Think I'm going to have to go buy a bag, if I want to open this thread again.
 
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