At least Christians throughout history have figured out that murder is wrong, muslims haven't.

 

Not only is it not wrong, they will be glorified by their god if they do it in his name.

 

That will be right only if it is a war situation (so it is not murder) otherwise it is forbidden.

 

That's why muslims are so quick to declare a jihad over the smallest inkling of a dispute, in order to "justify" their murderous doings.

 

That's funny!

Ladies & Gentlemen I give you the Bible:

Deuteronomy 7:1-2: "... the seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them."

Joshua 6:21: "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ***, with the edge of the sword.

Joshua 10:40-41: "So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. And Joshua smote them from Kadesh-barnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon."

Numbers 21:33-35: Land of Bashan "...they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive: and they possessed his land."

Deuteronomy 2:26-35 - Land of Heshbon "...we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain."

. . . and so on. The point being that all of the monotheistic religions have sacred texts justifying hate and murder. They also -- and this most definitely includes the Qur'an -- have other texts preaching peace and tolerance. The Qur'an praises peace, forbids attacks on civilians and proscribes tolerence for Jews and Christians.

There are two other points I would like to make. First, it is a waste of time to denounce a complex text which you know only by having it quoted to you by people who despise it. We can play the "selective quotation" game all day long.

Second, if you look at the places where tens of thousands of people are being murdered because they are the wrong religion, you will find that they are usually (not always) Muslims, not Christians or Jews. Anti-muslim pogroms have swept India and Israel, Christian Serbs have murdered tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslims, Russian and American security forces have killed thousands of civilians in Iraq and Chechenya.

Which is not to say that Muslim extremists do not also murder innocents. Rather, that the chief difference between a Islamic extermist and a Jewish or Christian extremist is that the former kills with roadside bomb and suicide belts whereas the latter enjoy a broader and more lethal range of options. Neither has a monopoly on evil.

 

I stand by my previous comment. All the Bible scriptures you stated coincide with my statement.

 

And in all the above Bible quotes God commanded that those nations be destroyed because they were utterly evil: (passing their first-born through the fire as human sacrifices to non-existent pagan gods, etc, etc). Do some research on Bashan in particular.

 

Many more Christians are killed on a daily basis than any other religion. Especially in India and China. Same went for the Serbs, we just got one side of the story here.

At any rate, true Christians are against the murder of anyone except for self-defense. It is God's will that everyone gets to be with him someday. Rich/poor, powerful/powerless.

 

Not any one has the right to declare a Jihad. Only the religious scientists can do that.
Jihad is subjected to many conditions. Believe it or not, if the Jihad was declared from the scientists!!!! Allah only knows what will happen.

On the otherhand, those who are declaring Jihad in Iraq or Afghanistan or elsewhere they have their own (does not relate to scientists) thoughts and they are claiming it is in the name of Allah, which is not true at all.
If you are seeing more than many groups in one area with different flags (not countries flags I mean the war flag, but I don’t know the word in English) at that time you can tell that they are not doing that in the name of Allah.

Jihad means all Muslims are under one flag (no god but Allah). If you see it, this is real Jihad.

 

In the interest of good debate...
I say that claim is absurd, and I ask you to prove your position.

 

We are the sum of our experiences.

I have only known one practicing Muslim from the Middle East.
He was from Jordon, here for a month and we didn't discuss religion.

When he left, he gave me a gift. It was a key chain with the Virgin Mary on it. The inscription says:
"O Mary conceived without sin pray for us who have recourse to thee"

I'm not Catholic and not familiar with this script.
I often thought about the real message of the gift rather than inscription:

Tolerance, Goodwill, Brotherhood, Grace, Respect

 

Your opinions of historical fact are different from mine, so why should I waste my time when you and others would rebuke my opinion no matter what I say. I could care less what you think and vice-versa. "It's like that, and that's the way it is" as spoken by the prophetic rap artists Run DMC. No big deal, opinions are like......................You know what I mean?

 

If you are going support your views with quotes you've got to do better than that. It has to be substantial, unrefutable and with a measure of decorum.

Here, feel free to use this one:

Pee Wee Herman - "I know you are but, what am I?"

 

im my own opinion... either you can like it or lump it it doesnt amke a diiference to me... but i personally think that they should move the hell out of our country and go back to whatever-stan they are from and stay there and believe in whatever they believe in there... i personally dont care if they are all killed or whatever you want to do with them.. i dont have any feelings toward them or there religiona nd dont care what happens to either one....but in my books.. if you follow the same religion that all the rest of the terrorists follow... then you too in my mind are a terrorist

 

uh-oh, Timothy McVeigh was a Fundalmentalist Christian.