I'm not going to read the replies here but rather just say one thing.....

Don't be ignorant. This thread sounds very Ignorant.

 

Glad the PC gang could show up. How can you make a statement about something you haven't even read through. That's ignorant.


I do not feel that Islam is a terrorist religion, per se. I do believe that there are a disturbing number of people in that religion who claim to be doing God's will, by strapping bombs to themselves and walking into a busy marketplace. Or that atleast condone such actions. That's not good regardless of the religion that's being used as justification.

The reason I brought this thread up is because of the talk show host in DC that was fired for calling Islam a terrorist religion. I was surprised that he was so adamant about his opinion that he wouldn't apologize to save his job.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082201255.html

 

I agree with UC...please keep the ignorance to a non-existance apperance around here...if a MOD were to read just the first few replies to this thread...it would be deleted imediately....(at least I hope that sort of racist bull chit would be)...

As for Islam...it is a great religion that allows for much more devotation towards God than Christianity ever could...unfortunately all that seems to get press is those that are fanatics...

Please take time to educate yourself about something before you comment about it ...and remember that the U.S. is just as guilty in the propaganda department as any other country...how else would you get people to become "patriotic".....

 

Is Islam a terrorist religion?

No.

Does Islam lend itself to terrorists and allow them to operate without condemnation?

Yep. The fringe groups need to be called down by the leaders of major sects of Islam.

 

Actually with the exception of a few responses, this thread seems to be pretty enlightened to me. Odin's Wrath has provoked an interesting discussion and I think that Burt's parallels to the KKK's brand of terror is a great thing for people to chew on while thinking about how everyone in a head scarf is the enemy.

Second, I believe that Islam brached off from Judaism before Christinaity branched off from Judaism. Then again, my theology courses are long behind me. I always found if ironic that with all he genocide between these three religions that they are basically worshipping the same god.

Third, I'm sure Cuba is a great tourist spot, they make sure that you only see that. If the whole country was such a paradise then Cubans wouldn't be risking their lives right and left to get here in anything that will float.

 

There was an incredibly interesting show on hosted by the guy that filmed the show "Super Size Me", Morgan Spurlock. It dealt with a heavily Christian father becoming, or rather practicing, the Muslim religion for 30 days. Hence the name of the show "30 Days” It was on the FX channel and I urge anyone that has access to the funds and wants a brief education on the Muslim religion to buy the episode. Basically the gentlemen lived with Muslims for 30 days in Dearborn, MI. and tried to live as a Muslim.

The first Muslim preacher (or what ever they are called) he reached out to, to understand the religion really didn't clear up anything and possibly would be one to not report any terrorist plots by a Muslim in his church. The guy recognized this and went to another preacher. The second preacher really helped him understand the culture and religion the Muslim people believe in.

It was a very non-biased view at exactly what we are talking about. I believe anybody that says any race or religion is this or that is a total ignorant fool. Is that politically correct, of course not. But to judge a whole society based on the actions of a SMALL minority is plain stupid. Are all Christians terrorists because the abortion clinic combings were due to Christian believes?????

I have found my way of thinking changing immensely the older I get, not that I am old at all. But I find people with closed minds and racial or religious slurs to be people of low self-confidence in themselves. Education has little to do with it. If you are confident in yourself enough to understand another human beings perspective you are a true man or woman.

-Will

 

It's sorta funny when I read people misuse the word 'ignorance'. (shrug). Most people who do that are Liberal ninnies.

Islam a religion of terror?

No idea. I'm not a Muslim. From what I understand, one way to guarantee one's place in heaven is to die in battle against the enemies of Islam, however. That isn't terroristic (is that a word?). Where the 'terror' comes into play is the Mullahs telling their followers that every non-muslim is an enemy of Islam.

 

Just a thought ... but when you constantly refer to a religion who's core writings call for the use of force to subjugate all "unbelievers" a "peaceful religion," aren't you actually encouraging and helping them to achieve their goal by stealth? Just wondering.

 

I have read several excerpts from the Koran (sp) and some other Islamic teachings. Bin Laden is not a radical. He is simply doing what the Koran tells him to. The Koran teaches Jihad (holy war) must be carried out until all infidels (non-Muslims) are terminated. Our politicians make it sound like it is only a few bad Muslims that are causing the problems and that the rest are kind, loving people. These "extremist Muslims" are not extreme at all. They are simply doing what is required of them as Muslims.

 

I sometimes think the thing that is missed by all the "Soapbox PC Preachers" in a thread like this is that ANY group that uses the tactic of purposely targeting and killing innocent people to further their cause (as well as the folks who condone it by standing by and saying nothing) are not worthy of understanding, sympathy, or tolerance!

It was (and is) true for the KKK, and it is equally true for Islamic terrorists and the people (unfortunately, a frighteningly LARGE percentage of the Muslim religion) who support them! I grow exceedingly tired of folks who somehow try to equate and/or justify terrorism as the byproduct of America's role in the larger world!

Try this -- take a Westerner to virtually ANY country in the Middle East and parade them around the local streets advertising them as a Christian, and see how long they last. Then do the same thing with an Islamic Middle Easterner here in the US.

I suspect the end result of such an experiment would be MUCH different, and therein you would end almost ANY comparisons between who holds the higher hand in our current battle!

In my opinion, people who want to pensively sit on a fence and teeter back and forth between doing something, yet not offending anyone, eventually just end-up getting knocked off the fence and landing violently on their back!

It's a free country -- that's how I feel!

 

If Christians allowed abortion clinic bombers to go about their business, without publicly making it very clear that these people do not represent their views, or not doing everything in their power to help bring them to justice, then the perception would be that Christians are in acceptance of this behavior, whether they actively participate or not. In fact, there are people in this country that would suggest exactly that, in spite of the fact that Christians obviously do not support this type of behavior.


The issue here is not really a judgement of the Muslim community as a whole. If 25% of the followers of Islam have no problem with terrorism against the infidel, that is just plain scary. With the numbers involved, and keep in mind that these Muslims were polled in the UK, not in the Middle-East, if just 5% were to support Terrorism, that would be frightening enough. I wonder what the percentages would look like in places where there is no Western influence or representation to speak of? Just some food for thought.

 

That's an excellent point, akthough I think if a lot of fundamentalist Chrsitians had their way, no one would ever be prosecuted for clinic bombings. It took a long time, and a dose of liberal Christians, before anyone stepped up to the KKK. You do have a great point though, if a few Islamic countries started prosecuting (and hopefully executing) terrorists, it would go a long way.

 

No it's not...

But, you have fanatics in every religion. For Muslims its the terrorists, for Christians, its the KKK, Arian Nation, and the **** Party- that all did unspeakable acts or treachery and cowardice, and they did this in a twisted system of belief, and in thier minds in the name of God, or in the case of the Muslims, Allah.

 

Your assertations are simply untrue. You are making blanket statements and talking from your **** here. Fundamentally, christians are AGAINST murder. Fundamentalists, by their very definition aren't bombing clinics. Those who bomb clinics are 'nut cases'.

As far as your ****/KKK comments - NEVER has an established christian church done anything less than speak against those organizations. Their doctrine has NOTHING in common with Christianity. Liberals didn't step up to end racism...Republicans (largely mainstream christians) did.

 

Fundamentalist = Nut Case in my book....