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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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1. BRET FAVRE

2. Joe Montana

3. Dan Marino

Bret Favre is one of the best football stars of our times. He is an unbelievable player, quarterback, and ambassador for the game of football. He is the man
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by buckdropper
1. Jim Kelly
2. Dan Marino
3. Joe Montana



you asked
Wow Buck....putting Kelly and Marino above Montana? I can maybe see Marino but Kelly? Wow
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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IMO, Kelly is on the same level as Aikman - outsanding player but does not belong on a list of top 3 QBs of all time. Maybe worth consideration for a top 10 list.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Yea but Aikman won under pressure...Kelly didn't
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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1.) Joe Montana: There's no denying how darn-near infallable the 49ers were with Joe healthy; then after two seasons off- came within one game of taking KC to the promised land. Being a cowboys fan, I hated Joe and the 49ers, but I became a fan in 1989 after nearly a decade of 9er hating after "The Catch"..

2.) Steve Young: This is a man with Joe's vision, Michael Vick's speed, and Elway's arm- that sat in the shadows of other great QB's for years, even in college... Who knew how great this guy would become?

3.) (Tie) Dan Marino: Almost every record in the book- but, no super bowl ring... Only one QB ever out-gunned Dan, and that was Warren Moon in his CFL days.

3. (Tie) John Elway. This man single-handedly drug the Broncos to the playoffs every year, and to what 6 superbowls? He ended his career winning two in a row, if memory serves...

3. (Tie) Roger Staubach. You couldn't count Dallas out until the whistle blew ending the 4th quarter when Roger was taking the snaps.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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I think quarterbacks get way too much credit.
In basketball one guy shoots and it either goes in or not.
In baseball, a batter either hits the ball or not.
Also, the pitcher either throws a strike or he doesn't, the catcher doesn't necessarily have to catch it.

Quarterbacks get fame for throwing but,
somebody has to run the route and catch the ball or it is all for naught.
Somebody has to block for him so he can stand there long enough.
and usually somebody else designed and called the play.
An entire defensive team (which is half the game) has to be able to get the offense an oppurtunity to even get on the field. I can't think of any two-way quarterbacks. Although Danny White was the Dallas punter for a couple of seasons.

There's probably a hundred players that could throw a football through a tire at a greater distance with greater accuracy than the 'Top' quarterbacks.
They just never had the supporting cast.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
I think quarterbacks get way too much credit.
In basketball one guy shoots and it either goes in or not.
In baseball, a batter either hits the ball or not.
Also, the pitcher either throws a strike or he doesn't, the catcher doesn't necessarily have to catch it.

Quarterbacks get fame for throwing but,
somebody has to run the route and catch the ball or it is all for naught.
Somebody has to block for him so he can stand there long enough.
and usually somebody else designed and called the play.
An entire defensive team (which is half the game) has to be able to get the offense an oppurtunity to even get on the field. I can't think of any two-way quarterbacks. Although Danny White was the Dallas punter for a couple of seasons.

There's probably a hundred players that could throw a football through a tire at a greater distance with greater accuracy than the 'Top' quarterbacks.
They just never had the supporting cast.
I cant think of a team that has had top talent in all positions with a suck @ss quaterback, that went to the playoffs. Granted a great quaterback, does have to have good receivers, running backs, and an O line, but they still need to be a good passer, leader, and patriarch for the team. who gets blamed for losses generally? Quaterbacks. You rarely hear about teams losing because the linebackers weren't playing to par, or the center just couldn't get that snap back to the quaterback quick enough. Quaterbacks are the team leader, they are held in the highest posistion.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dinty
I cant think of a team that has had top talent in all positions with a suck @ss quaterback, that went to the playoffs. Granted a great quaterback, does have to have good receivers, running backs, and an O line, but they still need to be a good passer, leader, and patriarch for the team. who gets blamed for losses generally? Quaterbacks. You rarely hear about teams losing because the linebackers weren't playing to par, or the center just couldn't get that snap back to the quaterback quick enough. Quaterbacks are the team leader, they are held in the highest posistion.
Sad, but true...
And, that's why it makes sense to honor those qb's because they catch hell when it goes bad- so they deserve credit when it goes well- but anyone who's played knows it's a team effort; but one man can make a difference...
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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The QB's may get too much credit, but on the other hand, if you were the best athlete why not play at the glamour big money position? I'll bet a few of these guys could have been all-pro at other positions, and others could have had careers in other pro sports.

As to arm strength and accuracy - no way the typical NFL player at other positions could match any of the QBs mentioned. Kyle Boller (a below average pro QB) can reportedly kneel down at the 50 yard line and throw the ball through the uprights 60 yards away. I doubt if there is a lineman in the league that could do that.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
The QB's may get too much credit, but on the other hand, if you were the best athlete why not play at the glamour big money position? I'll bet a few of these guys could have been all-pro at other positions, and others could have had careers in other pro sports.

As to arm strength and accuracy - no way the typical NFL player at other positions could match any of the QBs mentioned. Kyle Boller (a below average pro QB) can reportedly kneel down at the 50 yard line and throw the ball through the uprights 60 yards away. I doubt if there is a lineman in the league that could do that.
Reginald Myles was my QB in high school, nd he could throw end zone to end zone over 100 yards. He was highly recruited, went to ollege, and didn't last two seasons~ academics I hear- tripped him up.

So, it's true, for every Michael Vick you hear about, there's 100 other equally good players that you never heard of.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Well Trent Dilfer took the Ravens to the SuperBowl championship. He was an average skilled QB but he was a great leader and you could tell the guys liked him on the sidelines. The year errr...after... we had Elvis Grbac and he was above average talent but sulked and sat alone.

Give me Dilfer over Grbac anyday.

A QB needs a great group of support but his character is what make him a winner not his arm.
 

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vader716
Well Trent Dilfer took the Ravens to the SuperBowl championship. He was an average skilled QB but he was a great leader and you could tell the guys liked him on the sidelines. The year before we had Elvis Grbac and he was above average talent but sulked and sat alone.

Give me Dilfer over Grbac anyday.

A QB needs a great group of support but his character is what make him a winner not his arm.
That's no lie...
Leadership and a great arm is what made my choices great. While I respect Aikman, in his later years he started effing up, whining about this and that on camera... It still pissed me off when Dallas booed Troy when he came back after that injury, and replaced Rabdall Cunningham (Who had done well with Troy out). Still, i think Troy deserved better of this city... No one booed when the super bowl trophyies were coming in.

Favre is great too...
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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Aikman did complain alot towards the end but image seeing a dynasty that you help build crumble around you and mostly because of the sad, sad coaches that replaced JJ. It would make me a little bitter too.

Dallas should have treated Emitt better and just paid him so he never wore a cardinals uniform. That was hard for me to stomach.

Its like seeing Unitas in a Chargers uniform.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Wondering why, after three pages, no one has mentioned Terry Bradshaw . . .

 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
The QB's may get too much credit, but on the other hand, if you were the best athlete why not play at the glamour big money position? I'll bet a few of these guys could have been all-pro at other positions, and others could have had careers in other pro sports.

As to arm strength and accuracy - no way the typical NFL player at other positions could match any of the QBs mentioned. Kyle Boller (a below average pro QB) can reportedly kneel down at the 50 yard line and throw the ball through the uprights 60 yards away. I doubt if there is a lineman in the league that could do that.
I'm betting most linemen would just as soon throw the QB through the goal post. For all their athletic ability and big egos good QB + bad line = average (at best), good QB + good line = legend (I hope Aikman is still buying those guys dinner...). I know guys working at Kmart who can throw a ball like you described, I don't know too many guys over 300lbs who can move like a pro lineman who are not playing professionally. Stupid pretty boy, glory hog QBs.
 
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