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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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anyone ever see the movie repo-man?

if so, remember the dude driving around with the alien thing in his trunk?

i picture rj looking like that driver, with maybe 20 more years on him.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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drop out feature on control of fog lamps

Thanks very much for the comments, Those comments are great, Here in B.C we used to have a take a look the other way approach to deaths with large trucks and improper airbrake adjustments

But we had our air brake instructors teach the proper way to adjust air brakes to all the officers, and then we started having accident prevention occour on the road systems

Now regular road side inspections occur and catch many truck drivers who do not adjust their brakes, and fines and license suspensions send the message home

we have had your opinion about non enforcement of fog lamps

Have you ever thought that safe driver attitude is very important in accident prevention If you stop and remind drivers that fog lamps are just that, Perhaps while you stop the vehicle there will be some other problem that wil be found at the same time??

The police here are getting more concerned about the safe driver
practices and the use of seat belts, speeding and passing on double solid lines, street racing and drinking and driving violations

May we have some comments from drivers that want you to enforce proper use of fog lamps and to make this a priority for the police,

We pay your wages and need input into your to do list

Have a really nice day and good luck on the fishing trip
BJ
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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drop out feature for control of fog lamps

Here is a post from a police officer who cares about proper use of fog lamps on main highway syatems

18 JAN 01] WEST MIDLANDS POLICE NEWS
Fog Lights Crackdown on Hazardous Drivers
Daft motorists who use their fog lights in clear conditions in Coventry are facing a fine in a clampdown by traffic police.

Officers based at Fletchamstead Highway police station say that the blinding lights are being misused, and it is proving dangerous to other drivers.

A £30 fine will be imposed on drivers who break the law by going around with their fog lights on.

Acting Sergeant Nigel Fairburn said:

"We have been receiving complaints from members of the public who have been dazzled by motorists using their front fog lights when there is absolutely no need.

"The legislation states they are only to be used in conditions where visibility is serious impaired – generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet).

"We will be issuing fixed penalty fines of £30 to drivers who leave their front fog lights on despite the clear conditions.

"We believe that some motorists, especially young ones, are confused about their front fog lights and their use.

"Basically, if the lights are on a separate switch with a warning light on the dashboard, these are fog lights, and should only be used in extreme conditions.

"If they come on when you flick on the main beam switch then they are driving lights not fog lights and will disappear when the lights are dipped or switched off.

"Also drivers should ensure they remember to switch off rear fog lights after use as they can mask the brake lights of the car as well as dazzling motorists travelling behind."

WEST MIDLANDS POLICE



CWN / Crimes, Fires & Accidents / West Midlands Police / 18 Jan 01

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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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From lights to airbrakes?

WTF Robert?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by billycouldride
anyone ever see the movie repo-man?

if so, remember the dude driving around with the alien thing in his trunk?

i picture rj looking like that driver, with maybe 20 more years on him.
I picture RJ more as a wise old Yoda figure, especially the way he types.

Turn off your Foglights, you must, Hmmmmm or dazzle you back I will.

 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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WTF??? Why do you always talk about lights?? WHY????
Is your life that boring??

Remind me to avoid BC.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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origiunaly posted by robert johnson on 03-01-2005 at 06:44 PM
The goal of this posting was to creative discussion into ways to have vehicle fog lamps USED when they are required

and shut off at night time the weather is clear

To respect the eyes of the oncoming drivers

OMG

I just stumbled on this thread....LOL
This has to be the funniest thing I have ever read. We have a guy wanting to run his Lights in the day time but not at night?
WTF.. Can I make my brake pedal my gas and my gas pedal my brake? LOL

As for blinding oncoming trafic with fog lights....Those are not fog lights you are encoutering my friend! Those are auxillary driving lights. Both are available by either OEM option or aftermarket and can be ran at the same time as either the low or high beams or both. Federal law here in the U.S. is that you can not run over 55W lamps of any kind on the road ways.

Fog lights beam are low, narrow, and short. If they are blinding oncoming trafic then they are mounted to high and will be useless in fog! Actually they would render your visisbility in fog if they were mounted high enough for thier low powered beam and narrow spread to be penetrating the opposite lane or the shoulder of the road for that matter.

Your not suppose to look into the light of oncoming trafic... Looking at the front of a vehicle at night with thier lights on is the ONLY way you will know if they are running with thier fog light on... Your suppose to be watching the road directly infront of you especially when meeting oncoming traffic at night. Learn from night time insects. When they are drawn into the light.... THEY DIE!

Advance Auto Parts Auxilary lighting selection Guide
Common-sense guide for mounting new lights
By: Debbie Murphy/autoMedia.com

Fog lights
Do not have much of a horizontal spread. The beam is aimed directly in front of the vehicle with little of the roadway/shoulder illuminated. Mounting fog lights close together in the center of the bumper exaggerates this lack of roadside vision. If a common driving peril includes suicide-prone wildlife darting from the shoulder out in front of your vehicle, you may want to take that into consideration and position the fog lights farther apart and close to underneath the stock headlamps.

Click here for the rest of the story...
Advance Auto Parts Auxilary lighting selection Guide
Common-sense guide for mounting new lights
By: Debbie Murphy/autoMedia.com

Driving lights
Function like a vehicle's high beams, so the best mounting spot is near the factory headlamps. The light spread of auxiliary driving lights includes a 20- to 30-degree horizontal area, which includes the roadside or shoulder. Mounting driving lights in the front grille area makes the most sense—from this position the driver can easily see obstacles or potential dangers hovering just off the roadbed or trail.
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Advance Auto Parts Auxilary lighting selection Guide
Common-sense guide for mounting new lights
By: Debbie Murphy/autoMedia.com

Long Range Lights
The nature of pencil or long-range light beams, with a range up to 2,000 feet or just under a half-mile, and a narrow horizontal spread, makes them uniquely off-road. Basically, if you're driving so fast on the highway that you need that range, you're probably driving way too fast and may crash long before the intensity of the lights blind oncoming traffic. For off-roaders who really use this type of light to avoid falling off a cliff or running out of drivable trail, again, the optimum mounting spot is on the grille guard or on the truck cab roof or a roof rack.
Click here for the rest of the story...
I honestly do not belive you have a problem with fog lights, it is driving lights that might be your beef...

Edited to add:
Or it sounds like you could be suffering from a condition known as Night Time Blindness... Consult you eye doctor there are prescription glasses you can buy to correct this for you and make you and us sharing the road with you safer.
 

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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by clonetek
I bet robert would get a kick out of my buddy Charlies HD truck with HID headlights & foglights...





Look at this image...even dead on I can clearly see the color of the hood of the truck, the Ford emblem in the grill, the car to the left and the pole behind the truck, as well as markings on the concrete...You can also see the width of the fog lights beams on the ground directly in front of the vehicle and thier effective distance.... What's the problem? If that is not how it appears at night to anyone please consult an eye doctor.

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I can also see the red dually truck in the parking lot 100 yards behind the car wash! LOL
 

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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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LOL PSS where ya been? Welcome to RJ 'S little world. He makes me wanna bolt every light Wally world sells on my truck and drive to Canada. I'll show ya global warming RJ!!!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Greetings and salutations all. The comments are great to be sure
However, although an important issue fog-lamps are, we here in S.C. (Southern California) are concerned more of regulating speed chips in engine
Many of them bypass NTSB required chips
In all cases law enforcement are alerted
Whether NTSB enforces is question I put forward
Coincidentally FCC is aware as radio frequency beig emitted
Numerous owners and drivers, Lightning especially,
Have chip replaced with Super Chip
Operator of vehicle can bypass super chip and as
Result no frequencies emitted
Upon return to elevated operating levels operator
Re-engages chip for performance which is high
A possible option is discussed which FCC and NTSB
Which prevent activation of chip and therefore
No selection options available and only default
Which in no longer option (because switch can not be activated)
NTSB believes that accident prevention can occur
With reduced speeds when chip is restricted
(As current law requires here in States)
Track races greatly affected? And what about our other friends
Who drive with us in the race as well as on the public streets
This brings up issues of traction also
And economic effects on tire manufacturers who make tires
Required for high speed driving which FCC will regulate
Local law enforcement officers I have met
On the highway (and other friends we have yet to meet)
State a requirement of chip activation in all vehicles
Especially if they have it not
Especially with Fords, with regard to new GT
Which recalls are many, are very fast
Religious leaders stated on TV that if God wanted us
To go so fast, he would not have created chips which restrict
So I am curious if super chips cause more accidents
Or are passed to us from higher source
Fcc included
Have a really nice life
k
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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^^^Now this is REALLY getting wierd!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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kobiashi quit reading Robert Johnson's posts....your scaring me.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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In regards to 3 post up.^^^
I'm really getting nervous. The next thing you know I will have to have a permit and license to get gas. As well as be certified in order to beable to open my own hood. LOL

How the heck will I beable to tighten my carburetor belt? LOL
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by clonetek
Doug, I think we should create a Fog Light forum and make robert johnson moderator of it. Plus make it that he can only post in there.






Finally something we all (OK, almost all) can agree on
 
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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drop out feature for control of fog lamps

excellent comments thanks for getting involved and Yes vision was checked aprox one month ago, and there are no problems according to the specialist, we get eye check ups regularily every two years. as a matter of accident prevention and defensive driving course requirements.

are proud of 52 years of an accident free driving record

In our area in Canada, We have implimentation of Daytime Driving
Light a number of years ago

and these are pretty well accepted, many of the vehicles were supplied with DRL, as added lamps some were called fog lamps
or added driving lamps

However many of these were supplied without an on/off switch
to respect the eyes of oncoming motorists

Common sense tells us that fog lamps should be used in foggy weather and than shut off when the weather is clear. with the illuminated on/off switch located near the operators finger tips.

if we have good quaility head lamps supplied on vehicles
there should be little need for additional or auxillary driving lamps

and if auxillary driving lamps are used, these would be required to suppliment high beam operations, because of the visability distance required for highway speeds

illuminated on.off switches must be a part of standard equipment
so that the added auxillary driving lamps do not operate on low beam operations,

In order to respect the eyes of the oncoming drivers, why do we need more and more lights out on the front of vehicles??

there is no question of the need for adequate lighting on vehicles
But there must be the ability for people who want control of the on board lights and have their use an option of the drivers

who can better select the lights throught proper illuminated on/off switches to meet on site road and weather conditions
which they are operating the vehicles in.

we must ever be aware of the oncoming drivers vision, and
respect that even a split second of a loss of concentration at highway speeds can be an accident waiting to happen

have a really nice week
BJ
 
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