I made a simple statement...it went something like this:
Terrorism has been around since Biblical days. You think Bush is going to rid the world of it? Not likely. Strike that. Not ever. There have always been terrorists and always will be. If you think differently, you are delusional.

I don't believe Kerry can get rid of terrorists, I don't believe anyone can. A person is out of touch with reality if they think otherwise. Which is why I think Bush is out of touch, he thinks he can. That also, in my view, makes him a very dangerous person.

Del Sandusky, who was a Swift boat mate of Kerry's, spoke here in public about how Kerry saved his life. There are pictures of Kerry and his boat mates on the internet if you care to look and read. However, I don't think that's the case, you are comfortable with what you believe and you don't want anybody confusing you with the facts.

I applaud you on your time served, I wouldn't want to go. I had three brothers-in-law go to Vietnam and only one came back alive. My brother also served in Vietnam and thankfully came back.

And FYI, I'm not a Dem.

I'm an ARMY OF 2 MOM and Bush INVITED Iraqi's to attack our CHILDREN with his "BRING ’EM ON" message!

 

pssssssssssssst--- IRS MILWAUKEE...



(inside joke, no one but ARMY MOM OF 2 will understand)

 

I think you made my point by mentioning Del Sandusky. Thats 1 man's opinion compared to over 70 other fellow vets who know Kerry as a Cheese#@$! Hmmm, 70 - 1..............

And while your applaud is nice, thanks, but no thanks. It doesnt surprise me that you wouldnt "want to go". Most folks who apologize and make terrorists actions legitimate by saying that a sitting President causes the 9/11 cowardly attack, well, Im not surprised you wouldnt want to fight the war on terrorism. I wonder what war you would fight for this and future generations? But to tell you the truth, with the comments you made about President Bush CAUSING the 9/11 attack, to be honest, I think its best that you arent heping out with the war on terrorism. Leave that to folks with conviction and dont apologize for fanatics and their cowardly actions. We really dont need that kind of Man or Woman in the good fight. We didnt during our Independence (here Tory, Tory), we didnt when Europe needed to be wiped clean of Fascist Socialism, or when the Soviets were seeking global Communism............I could go on.

Why is it that Liberals blame our President and not the Mad Men that orchestrated and executed the attack? Im dumbfounded. But looking at the results tonight, it looks like GW has won. And as a side note, he'll be the President that gets to nominate 1 (or maybe even 3?) Justices over the next 4 years.

 

GOD BLESS AMERICA....


This is poetic ... Simply Poetic.. I think I'm going to shed a tear I'm so happy.

 

I think you have me confused with someone else, I never said that Bush caused the 9/11 attack.

And I never apologized to you.

And then take a poll and find out how many people are willing to go to the desert. And then watch how fast they don't.

I'm an ARMY OF 2 MOM and Bush INVITED Iraqi's to attack our CHILDREN with his "BRING ’EM ON" message!

 

Kerry's 11 Positions On
The War In Iraq


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1. October 2002: Kerry Voted For Use Of Force Resolution Against Iraq.
2. April 2003: Kerry Promised Not To Attack President When War Began, But Weeks Later, With Troops Just Miles From Baghdad, Kerry Broke His Pledge And Called For "Regime Change In The United States."
3. May 2003: In First Dem Debate, Kerry Strongly Supported President’s Action In Iraq.
4. September 2003: Kerry Said Voting Against The $87 Billion Supplemental Would Be "Irresponsible."
5. October 2003: Kerry Voted Against The $87 Billion Supplemental Supporting Our Troops.
6. January 2004: After Voting For War And Trailing Candidate Howard Dean In The Democrat Primaries, Kerry Says He Is Anti-War Candidate.
7. August 2004: In Response To President’s Question About How He Would Have Voted If He Knew Then What He Knows Now, Kerry Confirmed That He Would Still Have Voted For Use Of Force Resolution.
8. September 2004: Kerry: Iraq Is "The Wrong War In The Wrong Place At The Wrong Time."
9. September 2004: Kerry Says There Were No Circumstances Under Which We Should Have Gone To War, But He Was Still Right To Vote For It.
10. Kerry Said That The Removal Of Saddam Hussein Has Left America "Less Secure."
11. Kerry On Whether The Iraq War Was Worth It: "It Depends On The Outcome."

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Kerry's Many Statements
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1. Kerry Said It Would Be "Irresponsible" To Vote Against Funding Troops.
2. Kerry Claims "I Actually Did Vote For The $87 Billion Before I Voted Against It."
3. Kerry Later Said He Was "Proud" That He And Edwards Voted Against $87 Billion In Funding For U.S. Soldiers.
4. Kerry Then Said His Vote Against Body Armor And Supplies For Troops Was "Complicated."
5. Kerry Even Said His Vote For The War And Against Funding For Our Troops Was "Not A Flip-Flop."
6. Kerry Then Defended His Vote Against The $87 Billion By Saying President Bush "Didn't Have A Plan To Win The Peace, It Was Irresponsible To Give [President Bush] A Blank Check That Gave $20 Billion That Was Going To Go...To Halliburton And All These Other Companies."
7. Kerry Said He's "Glad" He Voted Against The Iraq Supplemental.
8. Kerry Said His Vote Against Th

 

OK. And I know you never apologized to me, please reread - I said save your "applause" (that you typed) for me serving, because I dont want them.

Anyway, I need to go to bed, but thanks for the interesting 'conversation'. I need to get into work in the AM early so I can revel in GW's victory.

I still love you as an American, Armyof2. Maybe someday you'll post something putting blame on Religious Fanatics for the 9/11 attacks and not the US President. But maybe you wont. Thats ok, too. Thats what makes this the Greatest Country in the world.

Take care of each other, Americans, because the 'Global Community' sure isnt gonna do it for us.

 

This quote is the problem. It makes since. Tell the terrorists to bring it so they attack our troops. Or you can bury your head in the sand and let them plan and exicute another attack on innocent civilain in the US. The military is a tool. If you follow that statement to it's logical conclusion the military members are tools.

It is sad when they are killed but ALL of them are volunteers. Most of them were adults when they signed up. The few who weren't had to have parental permission to sign. And think that one through. As a parent if you don't sign they will just wait until they are 18 then they will go in. If they could not think far enough ahead to realize they will have to go to a hot spot sometime in their time in they are fools.

Oh and it seems I might have to legitimize my position. I got out of the military Nov 2002 because I saw the low priority the miltary placed on the security of it's personnel and resources and as such could not give my full effort to a group of people who refused to accept the fact that by not doing the job to the best of their abilities they were placing people in serious risk. Yes my job was a combat position.

 

I did. I voted Bush.

 

How'd the arm heal deputy? It was the arm wasn't it?

I'm an ARMY OF 2 MOM and Bush INVITED Iraqi's to attack our CHILDREN with his "BRING ’EM ON" message!

 

I reiterate, I never blamed Sept. 11th on Bush.

I'm an ARMY OF 2 MOM and Bush INVITED Iraqi's to attack our CHILDREN with his "BRING ’EM ON" message!

 

Everyone knows when you join the military that there's a chance you will be put in harm's way. It's not the choice of parents, it's the choice of the person joining to take that risk. Maybe SOME don't know the risk...the ones that join just for the college money (usually slackers, from my observations (I'm a 9 year army vet) lazy goofs that only want college money and don't contribute their fair share to the unit).

The Iraq issue can mainly be blamed on bad intel. Everyone in the world, even countries like France and Germany, thought Iraq had WMD stockpiled somewhere. It turned out to be wrong...and so now we have to deal with the what we have in Iraq. I do fault Bush for being all too eager to go into Iraq, but knowing what we knew back then, I can't hold it against him (I'm politically conservative)

 

Starters here. Bush said just a while back that we may never win the war on terror, but had to retract because the liberals jumped all over that.
Like Skerry asking for Bush to admit his mistakes. Why not just ask Bush for his sidearm so he can shoot Bush in the foot with it.

As far as not a Dem, you sure arent very convincing there Mom.

Sled...
A Mom of nun, father of 2, and a supporter of are great soldiers..

 

I never realised that by starting this thread, it would go on as far as it did. Some comments were consructive whilst others weren't Those that told me to butt out as it wasn't my business justified my interference by replying.

I'm just gob smacked at the response to this thread and the turn out for your election. So, half of you won and half of you came second. The fact that you voted now gives you the right to complain about future events.

Over here in Britiain, we're lucky if 30% of us turn out to vote, (even on a sunny day), but 100% of us feel we have the right to complain, if things aren't going our way.

With regard to my original request, in my opinion, for what it's worth, there are things that the US should be proud of, and there are things, that the US should be ashamed of. but we don't live in a perfect world, ***** happens, it's your ability to get on with life and others that are important. Maybe it is nothing to do with me, but if it effects me, or makes me think, then I'm involved!

"Whilst I object to your opinions, I will fight to the death to preserve your right to them"

Decisons have been made. time to move on.

May your god go with you

Fred

 

It's "God"