Sorry, but I'm going with Toyota.
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From: Rochester NY
Originally posted by J-150
I will continue to buy American... but for a different reason. To me, Toyota is doing to cars what WalMart is doing to retail. My feeling is that they will soon dominate and then call the shots like GM did in the 60s. They will operate US plants as long it is beneficial to them. Once they have 20% market share and GM is bankrupt... you will have even less choice than you did in the 60's under GM.
I will continue to buy American... but for a different reason. To me, Toyota is doing to cars what WalMart is doing to retail. My feeling is that they will soon dominate and then call the shots like GM did in the 60s. They will operate US plants as long it is beneficial to them. Once they have 20% market share and GM is bankrupt... you will have even less choice than you did in the 60's under GM.
"Sir we just need to talk about the options now. What color would you like your Prius?"
"I don't want a Prius."
"Well you can always substitute a Corolla or a Camry."
"What else do you have?"
"Well we have several different colors of Prius, Corolla or Camry to choose from, as long as you like black, white and gray."
"D'oh!"
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Originally posted by fatman66
That's a scary thought...
"Sir we just need to talk about the options now. What color would you like your Prius?"
"I don't want a Prius."
"Well you can always substitute a Corolla or a Camry."
"What else do you have?"
"Well we have several different colors of Prius, Corolla or Camry to choose from, as long as you like black, white and gray."
"D'oh!"
That's a scary thought...
"Sir we just need to talk about the options now. What color would you like your Prius?"
"I don't want a Prius."
"Well you can always substitute a Corolla or a Camry."
"What else do you have?"
"Well we have several different colors of Prius, Corolla or Camry to choose from, as long as you like black, white and gray."
"D'oh!"
and they're all made in China. We closed that San Antonio plant the first time those Americans asked for a raise.
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From: The LBC (Long Beach, CA)
Comsumer Reports: car reviews for pu$$ies.
Read a real car/truck magazine.
If I want to know what car will get make me popular at a tree-hugger rally, I'll read Consumer Reports.
Read a real car/truck magazine.
If I want to know what car will get make me popular at a tree-hugger rally, I'll read Consumer Reports.
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From: Anaheim Hills, California
I don't go along with anything Consumer Reports says. They aren't a vehicle oriented organization, they don't test vehicles like a good car or truck magazine would (Car & Driver, 4 Wheel & Off Road, even Motor Trend) and their reviews are obviously biased.
Case in point:
Years ago I was reading an issue of Consumer Reports and they had a review on a new Lincoln Town Car. Now we all know that this car is expensive, plush and well built.
Consumer Reports gave it a bad rating because during their road test, the car pulled to the right just a bit. Now we all know that this probably is just a case of the front end alignment being off just a bit. But they gave it a bad review and said that with this kind of defect, they cannot recommend anyone to purchase a Lincoln Town Car with a defect such as this. After I saw this, I never picked up another issue of Consumer Reports again.
What a bunch of *******!
Case in point:
Years ago I was reading an issue of Consumer Reports and they had a review on a new Lincoln Town Car. Now we all know that this car is expensive, plush and well built.
Consumer Reports gave it a bad rating because during their road test, the car pulled to the right just a bit. Now we all know that this probably is just a case of the front end alignment being off just a bit. But they gave it a bad review and said that with this kind of defect, they cannot recommend anyone to purchase a Lincoln Town Car with a defect such as this. After I saw this, I never picked up another issue of Consumer Reports again.
What a bunch of *******!
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From: Motor City
I'll continue to buy the best product on the market. When it comes to pickups, it's Ford. Sport Sedan, it's BMW. Compact, it's BMW again (Mini Cooper). Full size affordable sedan is a crap shoot, so many good products on the market. If Amercian companies make the best, I'll buy it. However, I'm not going to buy a Zenieth TV over a Sony just becuase it's Amercian (assuming Zenieth is still an American company).
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From: south western NYS Latitude: 42.34 N, Longitude: 78.46 W
Originally posted by dzervit
I'll continue to buy the best product on the market. When it comes to pickups, it's Ford. Sport Sedan, it's BMW. Compact, it's BMW again (Mini Cooper). Full size affordable sedan is a crap shoot, so many good products on the market. If Amercian companies make the best, I'll buy it. However, I'm not going to buy a Zenieth TV over a Sony just becuase it's Amercian (assuming Zenieth is still an American company).
I'll continue to buy the best product on the market. When it comes to pickups, it's Ford. Sport Sedan, it's BMW. Compact, it's BMW again (Mini Cooper). Full size affordable sedan is a crap shoot, so many good products on the market. If Amercian companies make the best, I'll buy it. However, I'm not going to buy a Zenieth TV over a Sony just becuase it's Amercian (assuming Zenieth is still an American company).
Originally posted by buckdropper
Sorry D there are no american made tv companies anymore. I think the last was curtis mathis but no longer.
Sorry D there are no american made tv companies anymore. I think the last was curtis mathis but no longer.
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From: Blue Ridge Mountains, GA
I thought Sanyo was made in america
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From: Tampa Bay
Originally posted by dzervit
I'll continue to buy the best product on the market. When it comes to pickups, it's Ford. Sport Sedan, it's BMW. Compact, it's BMW again (Mini Cooper). Full size affordable sedan is a crap shoot, so many good products on the market. If Amercian companies make the best, I'll buy it. However, I'm not going to buy a Zenieth TV over a Sony just becuase it's Amercian (assuming Zenieth is still an American company).
I'll continue to buy the best product on the market. When it comes to pickups, it's Ford. Sport Sedan, it's BMW. Compact, it's BMW again (Mini Cooper). Full size affordable sedan is a crap shoot, so many good products on the market. If Amercian companies make the best, I'll buy it. However, I'm not going to buy a Zenieth TV over a Sony just becuase it's Amercian (assuming Zenieth is still an American company).
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Originally posted by Reloader
I don't go along with anything Consumer Reports says. They aren't a vehicle oriented organization, they don't test vehicles like a good car or truck magazine would (Car & Driver, 4 Wheel & Off Road, even Motor Trend) and their reviews are obviously biased.
Case in point:
Years ago I was reading an issue of Consumer Reports and they had a review on a new Lincoln Town Car. Now we all know that this car is expensive, plush and well built.
Consumer Reports gave it a bad rating because during their road test, the car pulled to the right just a bit. Now we all know that this probably is just a case of the front end alignment being off just a bit. But they gave it a bad review and said that with this kind of defect, they cannot recommend anyone to purchase a Lincoln Town Car with a defect such as this. After I saw this, I never picked up another issue of Consumer Reports again.
What a bunch of *******!
I don't go along with anything Consumer Reports says. They aren't a vehicle oriented organization, they don't test vehicles like a good car or truck magazine would (Car & Driver, 4 Wheel & Off Road, even Motor Trend) and their reviews are obviously biased.
Case in point:
Years ago I was reading an issue of Consumer Reports and they had a review on a new Lincoln Town Car. Now we all know that this car is expensive, plush and well built.
Consumer Reports gave it a bad rating because during their road test, the car pulled to the right just a bit. Now we all know that this probably is just a case of the front end alignment being off just a bit. But they gave it a bad review and said that with this kind of defect, they cannot recommend anyone to purchase a Lincoln Town Car with a defect such as this. After I saw this, I never picked up another issue of Consumer Reports again.
What a bunch of *******!
how is that biased? the car wouldn't drive straight! should they recommend the car? "Well readers, we had problems with the car but ignored them, it probobly came off the line with poor alignment".
Much of what Consumer Reports is WHAT THE CONSUMER REPORTS. Reviews by people who bought the car. Are they biased too, when they say they wasted their money?
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From: south western NYS Latitude: 42.34 N, Longitude: 78.46 W
Originally posted by alb1k
they don't test vehicles like...a magazine - - gave it a bad rating...during their road test, the car pulled to the right a bit
how is that biased? the car wouldn't drive straight! should they recommend the car? "Well readers, we had problems with the car but ignored them, it probobly came off the line with poor alignment".
Much of what Consumer Reports is WHAT THE CONSUMER REPORTS. Reviews by people who bought the car. Are they biased too, when they say they wasted their money?
they don't test vehicles like...a magazine - - gave it a bad rating...during their road test, the car pulled to the right a bit
how is that biased? the car wouldn't drive straight! should they recommend the car? "Well readers, we had problems with the car but ignored them, it probobly came off the line with poor alignment".
Much of what Consumer Reports is WHAT THE CONSUMER REPORTS. Reviews by people who bought the car. Are they biased too, when they say they wasted their money?
