Sorry, but I'm going with Toyota.
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Do the beds still rust off of those Toyotas? I remember seeing a lot of the older models rust-out faster than a Chevy, and guys removing the beds altogether then building a wooden flat-bed. I'd rather have my '01 F150 than a brand new Toyota. To each his own.
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F150 vs. Tundra
The F150 is legendary. I love it.
But legend sells only for so long. Check out what Consumer reorts is saying:
(2005 review)
The F-150 rides more comfortably, handles more nimbly, and has a quieter, better-trimmed interior than the previous version. New features include moveable overhead storage bins, a spring-assisted tailgate, and a power-opening rear-window center panel. The four-wheel-drive system is part-time only. The powertrain is not as smooth as that in the Toyota Tundra, but it delivered reasonable acceleration and fuel economy. Braking performance was just adequate, with long stops in our tests. First-year reliability of the 4WD version is below average. The 2WD version is average.
Now check the same year Tundra:
Currently our top-rated full-sized pickup, the Tundra's Lexus-derived V8 is smooth and quiet. 2005 brings a larger and more powerful V8 and a new 4.0-liter V6. The ride is civilized, the cabin is quiet and roomy in the crew cab, and fit and finish is top-notch. The power-retractable rear window is a nice touch. The crew cab has one of the longer beds in its class. Four-wheel-drive versions perform well off-road. The extended-cab model has a cramped rear seat. Good offset-crash results are a considerable plus. Electronic stability control is available.
I looked at Ford first, wanted one, but could not ignore unbiased reports. I've been driving a 77' for nine years, but when my family needs a new vehicle, sentimental value is diminishing at best. My new truck will most likely, based on the best information today, be more reliable, faster, safer, and more fun to drive, than the '05 F150.
Good luck with your choice, but do yor homework.
But legend sells only for so long. Check out what Consumer reorts is saying:
(2005 review)
The F-150 rides more comfortably, handles more nimbly, and has a quieter, better-trimmed interior than the previous version. New features include moveable overhead storage bins, a spring-assisted tailgate, and a power-opening rear-window center panel. The four-wheel-drive system is part-time only. The powertrain is not as smooth as that in the Toyota Tundra, but it delivered reasonable acceleration and fuel economy. Braking performance was just adequate, with long stops in our tests. First-year reliability of the 4WD version is below average. The 2WD version is average.
Now check the same year Tundra:
Currently our top-rated full-sized pickup, the Tundra's Lexus-derived V8 is smooth and quiet. 2005 brings a larger and more powerful V8 and a new 4.0-liter V6. The ride is civilized, the cabin is quiet and roomy in the crew cab, and fit and finish is top-notch. The power-retractable rear window is a nice touch. The crew cab has one of the longer beds in its class. Four-wheel-drive versions perform well off-road. The extended-cab model has a cramped rear seat. Good offset-crash results are a considerable plus. Electronic stability control is available.
I looked at Ford first, wanted one, but could not ignore unbiased reports. I've been driving a 77' for nine years, but when my family needs a new vehicle, sentimental value is diminishing at best. My new truck will most likely, based on the best information today, be more reliable, faster, safer, and more fun to drive, than the '05 F150.
Good luck with your choice, but do yor homework.
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MOST SATISFYING
PICKUP TRUCKS
Toyota Tundra .........................83
Nissan Titan .............................82
LEAST SATISFYING
PICKUP TRUCKS
Ford Ranger .............................49
Mazda B-Series .......................49
I'm not making this up, F150 falls somewhere in the middle. Spend 5 bucks online and find out.
Satisfying means; reliable, enjoyable, effective.
PICKUP TRUCKS
Toyota Tundra .........................83
Nissan Titan .............................82
LEAST SATISFYING
PICKUP TRUCKS
Ford Ranger .............................49
Mazda B-Series .......................49
I'm not making this up, F150 falls somewhere in the middle. Spend 5 bucks online and find out.
Satisfying means; reliable, enjoyable, effective.
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This is about the '04
RELIABILITY
We expect reliability to be much worse than average, according to our latest subscriber survey. (ouch)
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Recommendations
Mere brawn isn't enough for a high score in our Ratings. Since two-thirds of truck buyers use them for ordinary transportation as well as for hauling loads, we also look for decent handling, comfort, convenience, and fuel economy.
While all these trucks are higher and harder-riding than their two-wheel-drive counterparts, the Tundra does the most things well. It's a bit smaller than the others but more competent where it counts. It has a slick powertrain, a comfortable ride, and a very quiet cabin. Handling and braking are sound. On the downside, the rear seat is very cramped, and antilock brakes may not be readily available. Reliability should be very good.
The Chevrolet Silverado's good points include a strong powertrain and generous load capacity. It's the first pickup to offer selectable full-time four-wheel drive. And it's the only truck here with standard antilock brakes and a decent rear seat. However, the ride is stiff and bouncy, particularly with the off-road suspension. And first-year reliability has been below average. These judgments apply equally to the GMC Sierra.
The four-wheel-drive Ford F-150 is a lot rougher around the edges than the two-wheel-drive version we tested a few years ago. Good points remain a strong engine, fairly nimble handling, and a fairly comfortable ride. But braking is marginal, getting in and out is difficult, and the rear seat is cramped. The cabin is relatively noisy. Reliability of the four-wheel-drive version has been average; for the two-wheel-drive version, better than average.
The Dodge Ram has been eclipsed by the competition. Getting in and out is a chore, the ride is stiff, handling is ponderous, the 5.2-liter V8 is slow and thirsty, the cabin is fairly noisy, and the brakes don't perform well. Reliability has been subpar.
Compact pickups like the Ford Ranger, Chevrolet S-10, and Toyota Tacoma can handle many of the same kinds of chores that a full-sized pickup can. Their fuel economy is 2 to 4 mpg better, they're somewhat more maneuverable, and they cost some $5,000 to $7,000 less. But ride and handling are still trucklike, and towing capacity tops out around 4,000 pounds. Overall, the full-sized pickups give you a lot more truck for the money--if you really need their extra capacity.
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RELIABILITY
We expect reliability to be much worse than average, according to our latest subscriber survey. (ouch)
(more)
Recommendations
Mere brawn isn't enough for a high score in our Ratings. Since two-thirds of truck buyers use them for ordinary transportation as well as for hauling loads, we also look for decent handling, comfort, convenience, and fuel economy.
While all these trucks are higher and harder-riding than their two-wheel-drive counterparts, the Tundra does the most things well. It's a bit smaller than the others but more competent where it counts. It has a slick powertrain, a comfortable ride, and a very quiet cabin. Handling and braking are sound. On the downside, the rear seat is very cramped, and antilock brakes may not be readily available. Reliability should be very good.
The Chevrolet Silverado's good points include a strong powertrain and generous load capacity. It's the first pickup to offer selectable full-time four-wheel drive. And it's the only truck here with standard antilock brakes and a decent rear seat. However, the ride is stiff and bouncy, particularly with the off-road suspension. And first-year reliability has been below average. These judgments apply equally to the GMC Sierra.
The four-wheel-drive Ford F-150 is a lot rougher around the edges than the two-wheel-drive version we tested a few years ago. Good points remain a strong engine, fairly nimble handling, and a fairly comfortable ride. But braking is marginal, getting in and out is difficult, and the rear seat is cramped. The cabin is relatively noisy. Reliability of the four-wheel-drive version has been average; for the two-wheel-drive version, better than average.
The Dodge Ram has been eclipsed by the competition. Getting in and out is a chore, the ride is stiff, handling is ponderous, the 5.2-liter V8 is slow and thirsty, the cabin is fairly noisy, and the brakes don't perform well. Reliability has been subpar.
Compact pickups like the Ford Ranger, Chevrolet S-10, and Toyota Tacoma can handle many of the same kinds of chores that a full-sized pickup can. Their fuel economy is 2 to 4 mpg better, they're somewhat more maneuverable, and they cost some $5,000 to $7,000 less. But ride and handling are still trucklike, and towing capacity tops out around 4,000 pounds. Overall, the full-sized pickups give you a lot more truck for the money--if you really need their extra capacity.
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