wow you guys are wierd i said in the very first post it is going to ford. ntx what you said makes sence(or maybe the tune just went to far and hurt internal parts) but so does what i said. nothing wrong till tuner, its probably the tuner .dont really care about what most people say on here i do listen if its credible and the problem being the tuner is more credible then a coincidence it breaks the same day. im not thanking anyone till i know next week.

 

Dear OP,

It seems you know very little about engines or tunes for that matter to put your word against a guy like Justin who has been doing this tuning thing forever. If he says that its Ford's problem, it must certainly be Ford's problem. I don't understand why you have to bash Justin, VMP, or any others that know tunes like "Thump." Hell, I should take my tune out of my truck and never buy another just because your motor had a weak component.

Regards,

Zane

 

well whatever the issue I hope you get it fixed and get back on the road enjoying your truck as soon as possible.

 

so a tune could not cause a motor to run lean and break parts or foul plugs or a tune can not cause a motor to run rich and wash down the cylinders and mess up oil?

i agree the tune probalby did not cause the damage, but to say it could not, that seems a little naive.

 

what if he was typing in redneck????? then than would be the correct werd







to the OP, I think the tune most likely exposed a pre-existing problem in your truck and I bet it's a simple fix; unless you **** off the dealership guys off too

 

i feel sorry for you guys just talking out your a$$ because you believe everything justin says is always right. he talked to me on the phone for a short time and you think he can diagnose what is wrong, he had no idea what it was he just said it wasnt his tune. give me a break how could he know, he couldnt, just a guess. i hope it is simple. but all you guys saying he is right are just stupid. he has never heard of that problem and nor has anyone else i have talked to. i put this thread up so other people have info about what could happen and to get help if anyone had same problem. most people just say im wrong and if you say that your an idiot, because know one knows until it goes to ford so stop wasting your time telling me im wrong. you cant diagnose a problem like this over the phone. but go ahead a believe what you want iim just putting this out for people to think about it before they buy one. im not bashing justin all i said were FACTS. and since you guys havent driven my ride and heard what is happeng to it im know for fact you dont really know who is right so stop defending him and saying im wrong without any facts. this place is for collectig good info on our trucks not a web site to defend your but buddy. just so you all know i have never blamed him i just said logic says it was the tune that hurt the motor so im starting there and investagating any possible cause.

 

good luck with that then, I hope you have a nice day

 

I am pretty sure people gave you sound advice on here, they all told you their opinion and what they would do. That is the sound advice that you are looking for. I got to go though...my butt buddy just called and is coming over..

Zane

 

I do give you respect for one thing:

After all the flaming about your "sub-par" typing and grammar skills, you still manage to type like a 12-year old. Good for you!

 

So did you get the chance to take it into the dealership? If so, what did they find?

In a way I agree that some of the members are loyal to their tuners (Justin @ VMP, Bill @ PHP, and Mike Troyer) because those guys have put a stake into their reputations and have put a quality product out now for many years each. The guys on here have enjoyed thousands of their products and the tuners have earned many of our respect because of it. Some are more defensive than others when it comes to a stray comment that appears to bash their guy; others take it in stride and just know that things can and will happen, and you may have gotten a bad tune or had a failure and that they haven't. So don't take it too seriously and think these posters are ripping on you personally, because to them you did the same to their guy.

This forum is a place for everyone to learn and help each other, and doesn't need anymore hostility than what you already have towards your truck at the moment, lol. Point is, you may have a legitimate problem that each of us can and may need to learn from, and don't let anything sway you from finding your solution. Maybe it is a tuning issue...Justin's human and could possibly have made a mistake when writing yours, but I believe that he has a template made up already for the F150 that he uses everytime and only modifies it slightly when a truck has an add-on (CAI, exhaust, etc.), but even then mistakes can happen. Ford is a large manufacturing company who produces hundreds of thousands of vehicles a year without a hitch (for the most part), but occassionally has a glitch or a manufacturing issue that needs to be corrected (recall anybody?). Their small mistakes that affect less than 2-5% of total production may really affect 100,000 F150's or 200,000 cars, etc. They can make mistakes too. Maybe you've found an underlying one that came to the surface because of the tune?

So just let the harsh comments roll off your shoulder and try to gain some insight from posters whenever possible. And keep us informed of what's wrong and anything you've done to fix it.

 

I'm curious to find out what is wrong with his truck. My Ranger was tuned for over 30k miles and I had no problems.

 

Just as an observation I don't think it was the message of the OP but how it was presented.
I would assume that everyone on here that has had their truck tuned by ANYONE knows that there is inherently some risk involved in changing the factory parameters on your vehicle.
That being said if the truck goes to the dealership and they say FOR EXAMPLE: your head gasket is blown, how would one ever know if it was on it's way out for some time and the addition of a tuner just pushed it over the edge OR if the tuner parameters were just bad and blew a perfectly good gasket.

Again good luck getting it repaired and back on the road.

 

Caforddude, my point exactly. I think it may have just accentuated the underlying issue. He's the only one that I've heard of so far that has had actual problems from installing a tune rather than others who have had qualms about a new tune versus another one from a different vendor (i.e. one has better low end). I think that Ford will come out and say the problem is "....." and it would've been an issue that could've happened with or without a tune.

 

I think this thread should of been created after finding out what happened.

 

I agree. However, I do understand the OP's anxiety. New truck, payments, and unsure if he'll be able to get to work tomorrow. He also is assuming the worst and using basic troubleshooting skills. What was working now isnt and why? What's changed, etc? He's obviously blaming the tune. I understand that too. I think we need to back-up a tad, I'm sure we'd all be a little livid after spending a lot of hard earned dollar and not have our truck run the way it should.

What I don't like was the way he obviously started his rants and pointed fingers. You also use these products 'at your own risk'. I think it even says it in the tuner instructions. The fact the issue remains even at stock leads me to believe you had a pre-existing condition and made it worse. Do what the others have said. Just bring it in especially if its under warranty. Weigh your options after the diagnosis and decide whether a tune is best for you and your truck.

My 2 dollars.