im not 100% sure the tune did not cause the problem so i dont think im completly wrong, i dont care if i am,i hoped i was because i still want to run my tunes. just dont have enough info to say either way and neither does anyone else. its impossible to say why it happen nobody has the answer whether the tune fried the coil or not. so just be aware if you are thinking of putting a programmer on you might be taking more of a risk then you thought. if you wanna play you might have to pay. i just reacted and im glad i did it this way, LOOK at the responce i got. you cant deny i got things stired up which was my intension otherwise nobody will read your post. never said it was his fault, i said i THINK it looks that way, my opinion deel with it.

 

just talked to sct and they say the programmer does nothoing to the coil so it was just bad timming.i was wrong and glad to be. i was only on here to find another trucker with same problem and hope they had solution. but most people on here by the end were being cool so if you have a problem like mine dont give up. if anyhting this just boosted justins sales he came through, well we are still working out a few problems with the original knocking but that might be octane related.

 

Hey man....glad you are getting it worked out.

Anything can happen anytime....

Just expect people to defend those things that they respect when someone is attacking or questioning it...

Beer up man..

 

i said from beginning i hoped i was wrong so chill with the picking on justin stuff i never said sh t exept what i thought was wrong.your going to keep poeple from posting problems if you guys attack before you know, i didnt attack i just said this is what is happing. if i didnt tell you what i thought was wrong how can you help me diagnose the problem... do you see what im saying. it was my (opinion) on the problem. CHILLLLLL . instead of takin crap we could of figured it out. last time i say it i give. good luck to other with similar problems this site was more of a argument then help and all i did was defend my own opinion. thanx to the good guys

 

Hey man glad your truck is fine. I did not see you picking on anyone, if anything you were the one being picked on, or flamed about. I cant belive your plugs were fouled, did they say why. I can understand why the 1 fouled with the faulty coil but why the rest?

 

I am glad you got it worked out. Sorry you had problems, but also glad it was not the tune.

 

i asked that same question about the fouled plugs and they didnt give a clear explanation, they kinda said that the one bad coil was throwing the others off, im not sure exactly how it works but i think they run on same circut and one bad one drags down the others.

 

Ease up there tiger..all I was saying is why some of the people got upset. I didn't jump in there except to say I was glad your rig was ok as I dont even know Justin..so u chill friend

 

sorry just touchy bro, guess what it is still screwed up, not fixed to late to say the rest i think the computer is freid. ithink it is an sct thing not the tuner i told justin before i brought it in i think computer is gone. it seems to make a funny noise it never made before like a dirty cd being read by a player. or it just more coils out. that seems unlikely but possible. ill explain more tomorrow. im goin to drink tonight.

 

Drinking!

That's a sound decision. Now you can blame malt liquor for fouled plugs and a bad coil pack.

 

actually my instincts have been right for the most part. a major part of my motor is screwed up because of the sct programmer. i think my pcm is screwed up. i dont know enough about how and what justin does to the sct programmer to say if what he did effected this. im leaning away from justin and towards sct as the problem.(my opinion) we will know shortly.

 

]i started the new post because i said it was fixed in the other post and people probably thought it was over, i am still posting on the old one just letting you know it isnt over. the truck was running fine so i put the 87 octane tune in to try it out and let justin know if it neede any adjustment. it was running fine but it still felt a little off. and i never told you guys every little thing because people were so worried about me blaming justin. one thing i told justin but not the forum was i thought i was hearing a funny computer noise after the problem started. it sounds like a computer reading a dirty disk(my best description).so last night im driving home and the tire pressure light comes on, no flat. and while i load the program on my truck the tire pressure system stats to light up then goes away when loaded. so this makes me think the computer is the cause of this all. i hit wot to see if it was really ok and it happen the same as last time, it cut out at the high rpm. so the bad coils and false alarm tire pressure and weird computer noise makes me think its the computer, along with my mechanic buddy. i think it has less to do with justin and more with sct. but it could just be more bad coils or my computer just went bad at the same time i put the programmer in. i think it is the sct programmer that fried my pcm. it goes in today should be much faster this time...the good thing is it should be easy fix just pain in the but. not sure if im going to keep programmer if i need new pcm. they could still void warrenty.

 

There just isn't any way possible for Justin to write a tune that tells the PCM to foul your plugs, turn on TPMS light, then self-destruct.

 

on my in to the dealership my truck wasnt making any funny noises and was running fine. either the computer finaly fixed itself(learned), or after they fixed the first coil, the pcm neede a few more miles to adjust, i think it is called drive cycles?? im not sure but i bet they wontbe able to find anything wrong with it. which is cool i hope its over. not sure what is next with programmer but i believe VMP)(justin) had nothing to do with it just sct and ford is my guess, i think my pcm is more touchy if that makes any sence (not really though) we will know tomorrow.

 

This is the message i just sent to my tuner justin at VMP Tuning...... Hey bro, so i think we have come to the end of all the problems and i believe we also have an answer for the problems in the first place. The first problem was knocking or pinging with the performance tune at 93 octane. the lesson here is we have ethanol in our gas in oregon, it starts at a minimum of 10% and my ford mechanic who went on a datalogging ride with me said he has seen as much as 30% ethanol. And according to my mech. he says the ethanol leans the mix up and i didnt tell him about the tune obviously, but that is the first problem (i think) we had with bad gas causing knock. Im not sure how to adjust or the exact effect it has on gas as far as how much it leans it out or the effect on octane(which it is supposed to raise the octane even though it oxigynates at same time causing lean burn) let me know you think we should do , i was thinking to just go with a 90 octane performance tune and ill run as high as i can 92 or 93 because the numbers on the pump are just not reliable according to many mechanics around here, and the ethanol throws it off too. the other tunes are fine, ill do the same just run higher octane then the tune or you can adjust for bad octane numbers, to much to say maybe talk on the phone. let me know. But the next problem, the coil im not sure if it was ever bad they just said weak, so i think it was the gas running on a tune ment for better gas then i had and that was causing the plugs to foul. this is according to my mechanic who datalogged with me and the motor was fine, all coils firing full power, but he found 1.25% error with combustion, so that confirms it was the gas he said.he could not factor in the programmer but like you said it was not in the equation anymore. it just exagerated the gas problem and maybe coil. Sorry this is so long and confusing. I get a little confused too. Soooo that is what i got for info and the loud bang i was hearing was the same thing as a carb backfire, you know that stall when you gas a carborated motor. he says its from the lean air building up and poping from the incomplete burn, im sure you know even better then me so. and it was at 5000 rpm and through the intake its like a trumpet and way louder then the usual pop from a carb when you gas it from a stop kind of noise, thats why it was so loud and freakin me out so much. Sooooo i think thats it with the mysterious stuff, Im not sure what states have ethanol or even other stuff or additives. That is somthing you should really look into for better performance and avoid this whole thing with another poor soul, but you have tried bro thanks.

So we all have something to learn here, i was not asked if my state gas has ethanol which was causing my problems for the most part. The first thing we learned is simple little adjustments to our expensive and touchy motors are easily damaging things we dont even know about. The lesson im taking away is be more careful with performance upgrades and DONT EXPECT other people selling these performance products to have all the answers for your very specific ride. A cookie cutter approach will eventually catch up when you add all your upgrades together. Well just look at what happen and try to take something away that will help that is why my hand hurts from typing, if you have ethanol in your state be careful. anyone else have gas problems??? What state are you in????? OH ya the truck is running good with just k&n on and no tune waiting for justin to adjust my tunes. Im not sure how fast im putting programmer back on it runs good and im pretty happy with that for now. We will see.