Edge...version 14...where's the power?
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From: Cary, NC
Originally Posted by gobra
Grog,
The snip by MT is not entirely correct (you may not have gotten the whole content of the quote). You can advance or retard the cam to move the powerband up or down by several hundred rpms. Im not sure how the variable cam timing on our trucks plays into this. That may be how more power is extracted from these engines. I dont know if this is splitting hairs or not...
The snip by MT is not entirely correct (you may not have gotten the whole content of the quote). You can advance or retard the cam to move the powerband up or down by several hundred rpms. Im not sure how the variable cam timing on our trucks plays into this. That may be how more power is extracted from these engines. I dont know if this is splitting hairs or not...
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From: San Diego
Originally Posted by MGDfan
Hi. Don't think so ...
Typically, a 'towing' tune is set a little richer to keep EGT's safe, invokes a little more torque management at the shift points to keep the tranny alive while shifting at high loads, etc, etc.
In most, if not all, cases (at least in terms of custom tuned tow & perf calibrations), a max perf tune will provide the best performance over a tow tune. I'm surprised you are experiencing otherwise.
Cheers
Grog
Typically, a 'towing' tune is set a little richer to keep EGT's safe, invokes a little more torque management at the shift points to keep the tranny alive while shifting at high loads, etc, etc.
In most, if not all, cases (at least in terms of custom tuned tow & perf calibrations), a max perf tune will provide the best performance over a tow tune. I'm surprised you are experiencing otherwise.
Cheers
Grog
Can you give a bit more info regarding the differences between tow and performance tune? I have a thread started if you want to reply there--as to not hijack this thread. Tow tune vs. Performance Tune I"m trying to figure out how each tune operates as to see which I'll actually use most. Additioanlly, I'm going to get my truck custom tuned and I want to be able to understand what the tech is talking about.
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From: A big ass man made lake in New York
Originally Posted by MosineeFX4
Since you and I seem to be the only ones that have this or notice it and things seem to be related to certain cal. codes. I am curious as to what yours is. Mine is RXAQ3B3. I'm still thinking I must of hooked things up wrong or in the wrong order since no one else (besides you) has complained. I am waiting for the latest update in order to download and rehook everything back up and give a try.
Anyway, here is what it reads currently under Version info screen:
Bootloader 1.00a
Production: E3.12.14A
Firmware: 12
HEX: RXCM5P9
Anyone know what happened to the Octane change option?? I can't find it!
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From: North Little Rock, Arkansas
Originally Posted by Doo2theSea
I was thinking the same thing.....I actually just updated it again tonight, I don't know if anything has changed but before ot was telling me I was unsupported when I tried to do a custom tune...As of tonight I am able to do customs after the upload! I'm happy about that...I have yet to drive it though....been a long day.
Anyway, here is what it reads currently under Version info screen:
Bootloader 1.00a
Production: E3.12.14A
Firmware: 12
HEX: RXCM5P9
Anyone know what happened to the Octane change option?? I can't find it!
Anyway, here is what it reads currently under Version info screen:
Bootloader 1.00a
Production: E3.12.14A
Firmware: 12
HEX: RXCM5P9
Anyone know what happened to the Octane change option?? I can't find it!
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From: Wisconsin
Originally Posted by Doo2theSea
Anyone know what happened to the Octane change option?? I can't find it!
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From: A big ass man made lake in New York
Originally Posted by MosineeFX4
They changed it to "Timing". From what has been explained, bumping the timing up by one is equal to a two octane difference. Example: if you have 93 octane and are running the tune set up for 91 octane, you can bump the timing up by one. Ultimately though you need to listen for detonation. Do a search, I know it is explained better than I have done. I believe that the change is a good thing, since the timing depends on more things than just octane. Let us know how everything shakes out with the update you did. Get us some numbers!
Definitely let you know about the upgrade tomorrow!!!
PEACE
*EDIT* 12 Midnight EST
Version E3.13.15a
Firmware v13
UPDATE is ready and loaded in my EDGE!
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Originally Posted by hwm3
Is the variable cam timing adjustable?
I posted a question regarding how the VCT worked and got no responses so i am not sure. I would *think* that it is somehow adjustable, that's why it is called "variable". Can you explain it to me? In the mean time, i will keep looking for a good answer.
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From: South Carolina
Originally Posted by Doo2theSea
I was thinking the same thing.....I actually just updated it again tonight, I don't know if anything has changed but before ot was telling me I was unsupported when I tried to do a custom tune...As of tonight I am able to do customs after the upload! I'm happy about that...I have yet to drive it though....been a long day.
ERROR CODE 0xF1 (IN CUSTOM MENU) – If you are receiving this error code while trying to configure your custom options, disconnect from the OBDII connector, turn the key to the ON position, and plug the Evolution back in. After getting to the main screen (past Intro and Disclaimer), wait 15 seconds. This will give your unit time to load parameters it needs to perform the custom changes. You should now be able to perform your custom changes.
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From: Maryland
Originally Posted by FX4_Guy
The octane change option has been replaced with a better timing advance feature. You should increase your timing 1 point for every 2 points octane increase. For instance if you are running your max perf tune (set at default 91 octane) while running 93 octane gas, you should increase your timing by 1 point.
Is changing this value considered a "custom tune"?
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From: North Little Rock, Arkansas
Originally Posted by netspec
Is changing this value considered a "custom tune"?
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From: Northeast
Originally Posted by F150Truck'in
I was planning on using it for the gauges, but will sell it if I can get out what I paid for it...witch is less than one can be gotten anyware else....the pod is painted to factory dark flint..thats a free plus if someone need that color.. paint is $18.00 .can be seen in my gallery..
Is that paint that you bought in a spray can?
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From: Central California
Originally Posted by FX4_Guy
Where are you going with this "custom tune" question? I'm not really sure what your looking for. It doesn't matter what the object is, if you make changes to it, its custom...from adding ketchup to a hamburger from McD's to changing the octane level, shift points, etc - it is all custom since you altered it in such a way that it is different from the way you received it.
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From: Cary, NC
Originally Posted by asinatra
It would be *custom* for the end-user; NOT *custom* for the vehicle. You are just raising spark values based on no output of what the engine is currently doing (monitoring knock sensors, etc..).
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From: So. Cal
Originally Posted by hwm3
I've got a question you might be able to answer more clearly. Is the variable cam timing adjustable? What I mean is, can a tuner change it?
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From: Central California
Originally Posted by hwm3
I've got a question you might be able to answer more clearly. Is the variable cam timing adjustable? What I mean is, can a tuner change it?
Originally Posted by CCRider
I've got a question as well. No offence. Asintra, you are 19 years old, and a student. What is your technical background, and experience that has allowed you to be so knowledgable on virtually every post in these forums?
