Need quick answer on programmer

Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Troyer performance is not allowed to discuss prices on the boards. Seems most of us respect that and don't mention the pricing either.

You can actually talk to others besides Mike. They all know their stuff and would be able to give you a price. I'm not sure why you think you'd have to talk to Mike only to get the price?

Yea I didnt think about it, I appoligize for asking about the price. Was a little disrespectfull..
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Daves F150
Dyno results
programming issues
best programming for my driving
89 towing, perf, ??
etc etc
1. They can give you base numbers, but if you search you will find they NEVER give out the dyo sheets. Of course if you search you can get an idea of HP increases as well

2. What type of issues? It's pretty easy to do

3. They will tell you it's up to you (and it is) check out the other thread going right now about programming choices. It is all pretty much your choice.


BTW I wasn't talking about you being disrespectful but more about you probably won't get anyone to give you a price here on the boards.
 

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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no prob... Just spoke to Crystal and ordered the xcal2.. Hope its as good as all of you say. Your the reason Im spending an additional x$'s.. She was very nice, helpful and also very busy.

For goodness sakes I hope it just doesnt take 2 weeks to get it.. I went with

89 tow

91 perf

93 perf

If anyone, anyone has any opinions on this, please post, I have to fill out my data sheet tonight..

Thanks again...
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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You don’t get in line until you get the paperwork faxed back to them so don’t delay
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Well who else mentioned a price NJSteveFX4?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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OKAY

got another question, Im filling out my form and it asks me what plug am I running.. Is there a recommended plug that you guys have seen that works really well??
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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it's more like 8hp to 12hp
No, it's 5 HP at 3000rpm. 25hp for the AF1 and 20hp for the Airaid at the rear wheels..............relax guys there both great.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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So is there a particular plug you guys use??
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 01:45 AM
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So is there a particular plug you guys use??
When I did my “custom program worksheet”, I left stuff like that blank because my truck was brand new and it still had the Motorcraft plugs it came with. Questions like that are more for older trucks. You got a 04, so unless you changed them, everything is still factory parts.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Yeah if you haven't changed it, just write "stock" next to it (that's what I did). The forms are meant for all their different tuning work so some things might not affect you (I had a whole lot that I left blank or wrote "stock" in).
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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well I ordered the XCAL. Now i just have to be patient....
 
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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Figuring out which tuner to order is the easy part. The waiting is the hard part.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Hi DavesF-150,

No, there's not a specific spark plug that you need to run other than stock,

Now if you have added total power gains of about 75 HP or more over stock, or are running a supercharger, in *that* case, we do want to drop down to a plug that is 1 heat range colder than stock to reduce the detonation threshold. For example, in the 2004 & up 5.4 3V engine which uses those weird special deep/long spark plugs (the theory being to increase lower rpm torque the way the ETC system & retarded VTC setup is calibrated) for which NOBODY makes a cooler heat range just yet, you use the 2005 Mustang GT set of plugs, as they are 1 heat range colder than the stock truck plugs. Then if it's a 2003 or earlier 2-valve V8 motor (or 4.2 V6), then that is simple, as you have all kinds of different suitable spark plugs - all the way down to 4-6 heat ranges colder than stock!

We really have that spark plug section in those CPW's sheets as a carry-over, it's really something that came from our drag racers who tend to "read" their plugs often (meaning pulling them often to look at them), to give us an idea of what they're seeing if they use a plug scope - any dimpling or other signs of inaudible detonation in a racing situation with open headers, etc. So for most vehicles today it's really not applicable - but we still leave it in there anyway because we tune all kinds of vehicles - drag trucks, race cars, etc.

So it's really nothing to worry about - a lot of owners of these trucks have never even pulled their plugs to look at them, and if that is the case, you can simply say that on the form and not worry about.

And don't worry, asking about price being "disrespectful" per se, it's really not - it's just something we can't discuss here on the boards of F-150 Online in this section, that's all.

Also, your selection of tunes, 89 Tow, 91 Perf & 93 Perf sounds fine - that way, between your stock tune and your 3 new custom tunes, you have tunes for both 87 & 89 towing, and you have performance tunes for both 91 and 93 octane - so you've got a pretty darned nice & very flexible configuration there.

Congrats on your order!
 
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