Take a look at that connector and reduced wire size - A Mickey Shores Special , is that even legal lol?



Yup!!, She's gutted , ready for new carpet and once again - that new car smell ( :



More speaker pics -



You would be suprised how much those tweeders weigh - think I should use them?



The Amp has 4 chanels - Does have more than one channle isolate speaker group fade/control? - It that the idea behind channels ..

Would tose Advents (4) be very exspensive to replace today ?


Thanx

 

That would be a waste of money IMO.

The spider should have kept it pretty well centered. As long as he's gentle and doesn't fudge it around when he glue on the surround it should be good, checking it as he goes.

Even if it is, why not just unglue the spider from the landing and pull the whole spider/VC/cone assebly out. Thats basiclly what a recone kit is, so why spend the money for one when you already have it all, and it works. All youd need to do then is glue on a surround, pull off the dust cap, the stick your shims in to align the VC and drop it all back in, then stick your dust cap back on.
Just seems like it would be a waste of money to buy a whole recone kit when you have it all already.

 

I have no idea what you said about how its wired. If your wanting to use all 8 Advents, then just parallel wire two of them together, then run them on a channel. Then do the same thing for the other 3 channels.

I guess if you wanted to use the tweets you could. BUT, it would be a PITA to wire and set up on the amp... Not to mention, the frequencies tweeters put out are directional, so whereever they are pointing is where the sound is going to go. If they are in the same box, they are either going to me shooting at the back of your seat or into the floor. Sound stage will all be in the back, terrible imaging (by the sound of it I dont think this would bother you to much lol) and so on. Id just skip the tweeters.

Pioneers will work fine in the front.

 

Clean the wiring up. Use all one size instead of splicing in different sizes...and dont use wire nuts.



I was thinking those Advents were subs, but from those pics it looks like they are just part of a 2-way mid/tweeter setup?????
If so, then all those Advents are are midbasses/midranges. If so, your really not going to have a whole lot of bass, more like midrange...which isnt going to be the best in a box under your seat.

Replace with something different?? Or what?
For what it would cost to fix those, or replace them, you could probably get something better that would walk all over them.

 

Cool!!! I'm throwing all that sh^t back in the box and placing in the Bonfire food pile close th the shed where the John Deere 's restin..We Spark up a big fat one of those (Bonfires)first day of spring every year -- Seee , I knew those speakers would come in handy one day...


So Mr. Bartak - I like your Idea , just need a little bit of advice.

Super Tuner is what, 50 watts or something , - Thats my receiver .. The Pioneer 6x8's will be in the front doors .

The Kenwod AMP will be bolted in the back somewhere pushing 4O0 watts(400 watts ? - hope so)

All that I need now is a good set of woofs to finisher off , so whatduhyuh think boss.

What couid I put back there that would handle my system, what do you think - I'm thinking, something good for that a a couple hundi's could get me..

I really apriciat all the help man - Audio systems isn't really my cup of joe ..

 

J,

Your CD players ratings writtin on it are max power. The 50x4 is just a number thrown out there pretty much. RMS power your getting from it is probably 15 watts.
The Pioneers 220 watt rating and what not is peak too.
Like I said, you want to look at RMS rating. Those speakers are probably like 50 watts RMS.
Either way, they will work fine off your HU.

What size subs you think you want to go with? Pair of 8s? 10s? 12s?

Is that 400 watts RMS from that amp?
Do me a favor, and see if you can find what it does for RMS power. It might say it on the bottom of the amp or something. Or else you can give me the model number and I can look it up and find some stuff up about it.

OR , if you want to spend some money, you could run the 4 channel on all your door speakers, then get a new amp for the subs you get

 

Crap!! I got the book - no RMS RATEING -

 

Hmmm, well whats the model number?

 

4 Channel Mode 70w X4
3 Channel Mode 70wx2 + 200 X 1
2 Cahnnel Mode 200w X 2

RATED POWER OUTPUT (4 OHMS) 4 CHANNEL MODE -(20 Hz ~ 20 kHz, LESS THAN 0.08% THD)....35 WATT X 4


I have a feeling it's a piece of sh^t...Well , I' ll go finisher up - I need the truck tommorow mornong early ..

So just one chanel it to my door speakers for awhile ? until I get new stuff - it almost sounds like I can use the amp for what I have now

What the best way to hook the two up for the most post power - I don't care if it blows - damn things outdated anyway..

Thank U Sir Bartak ..

 

Sry , didn't see your reply - its (KAC-748)

 

RMS:

Bridged Power Output at 14.4V (1kHz, 0.8% THD): 100 Watts x 2
Power Output at 2 Ohms, at 14.4V (1kHz, 0.8% THD): 50 Watts x 4
Power Output at 4 Ohms, at 14.4V (20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD): 35 Watts x 4



thats what I found

 

I 'going to have to look "RMS" up soon -- I will..

Hey fella's, I buzzed threw that AMP book pretty quick last nght, crash course with hookup stratagies -
BTW , thanx for lookin that up styxnpicks

Any way I guess you can x1 and get 200 amps , but you'll be in mono mode or something.

Well , I'l keep reading abit , Lots of info on the net - need more time lol .

Thanx ,
jbrew

 

Ok, so real power on that thing is 35 watts x4 at 4 ohm. So you could hook that up to your door speakers, one speaker on each channel, and send them 35 watts each. That is what I would do.

Or you could bridge the front and rear channels and just run your front speakers off the amp, and run the rear speakers off your CD player.
Thats if your front speakers can take around 100 watts RMS...

The mono mode that your refering to is to run a sub/s. Instead of stereo sound, the amp produced a mono sound... You dont want to run full range speakers, like your door speakers, off the amp in mono mode...you wont have and left/right/front/back or anything.

So, for now, and to keep it simple, just wire each speaker up to its own channel...

 

BARTAK!!! -

Man, I feel at a loose here and a little nieve when it comes to a good stereo system. I guess when it comes to the mathamatics of electronics everything has to jive with each other in certain fashin.. I guess the details of putting together a good stereo sytem never really interested me enough, or something, before last week I was under the impression that buying a good stereo system was like buying a light bulb (the higher the wattage, the brighter the room....") w/ Sounds system ( the higher the wattage the better the sound quality) obviously , theres more to it than that and I've read a few artcles on putting a good system together, it's not that difficult unless your MULTITASKING lol.

I've been re-wiring in side the cab and under the dash .. I have a Ford " Sure Start" car starter that was installed by Ford back in 98 - they did a good job in everything , it just some of the materials used didn't age well lol. I replaced all Charging system wires (engine comp - new starter & solenoid) along w/misc. connectors / feeds under dash..

In 2003 three , a kid at Micky Shore Audio Inc. Installed my old system , now this guy was a total butcher - I showed you a pic of where this guy used freakin "wire nuts" - Well everthing from the AMP settings being wrong to haveing three different AWG types of speaker wire between the AMP and speakers (just on one side).. Freakin Spazz, LOL , I gutted everything starting fresh on the stereo wiring - Thats's where I'm at now - Making a system harness with new and the correct size wiring, keeping in mind - "if your not sure ,make it bigger" ..

BTW - Those duel 8" Advents had more than enough bass - not midrangers lol - They were Woof Brothers.. Duel meaning - 2 Eight Woofs per unit w/600 WATT MAX.

Latuh

 

Sounds good thanx , I 'll get back to yuh after the wirings set , dash is back together and carpets down.

Thanx Pal..