2013 5.0L dead in the water ( no crank no start )
#1
2013 5.0L dead in the water ( no crank no start )
How does it break when it rarely gets used .
Well, I don't drive it a whole lot but I put 107 miles on it within the last month. Last time I ran it was to spin it around in the driveway and pulled into my garage. Now I have a no crank issue. It doe not even want to try cranking, and it is throwing every warning light at me.
See the video below for exactly what its doing.
It runs 12.3v with the key off, 11.8v with it on. Thinking perhaps that was too low to crank from, I tried to jump it properly, and doing this even with 14v at the battery it would not attempt to crank. I have some more fuses to look at and want to check starter connections, and the hammer tap test, but that is all I could do quickly at the time. Is there an issue going around with these trucks I may have missed? ( like the fuel module on the '04/'08s ).
I am fearing a ECU or BCM issue. It isn't custom tuned, runs every time flawless, garage kept, so i'm shocked it won't even crank. I only have 1 key for it so I can't try using another, and there isn't a security light on.
Thanks for any input folks.
-DarrenWS6
Well, I don't drive it a whole lot but I put 107 miles on it within the last month. Last time I ran it was to spin it around in the driveway and pulled into my garage. Now I have a no crank issue. It doe not even want to try cranking, and it is throwing every warning light at me.
See the video below for exactly what its doing.
It runs 12.3v with the key off, 11.8v with it on. Thinking perhaps that was too low to crank from, I tried to jump it properly, and doing this even with 14v at the battery it would not attempt to crank. I have some more fuses to look at and want to check starter connections, and the hammer tap test, but that is all I could do quickly at the time. Is there an issue going around with these trucks I may have missed? ( like the fuel module on the '04/'08s ).
I am fearing a ECU or BCM issue. It isn't custom tuned, runs every time flawless, garage kept, so i'm shocked it won't even crank. I only have 1 key for it so I can't try using another, and there isn't a security light on.
Thanks for any input folks.
-DarrenWS6
#3
ECU or BCM issue is my guess as of now. I unhooked the negative terminal earlier and left it off all day. About to go re-connect it and play with it some more.
Found this clip that seems somewhat hopeful. In the comments the OP claims the harness pins came loose and was a simple fix. Then again its a Super Duty and not a 150.
Found this clip that seems somewhat hopeful. In the comments the OP claims the harness pins came loose and was a simple fix. Then again its a Super Duty and not a 150.
#5
#6
#7
Trending Topics
#8
Voltage is only half of the story. It takes Amps and a lot of them to turn the starter. The lights on the dash etc take very little power so a weak battery will power them just fine but do nothing for the starter. If the battery is nearly drained it might take a good 5-10 minutes to get charged enough to turn the starter.
#9
Its also possible for a battery to be "so bad" that jumping it doesn't help, if the battery is causing enough of a drain on the combined vehicle systems while jumping, it may still not have enough power to turn over.
Unplug one side of your battery, attempt a jump to both cables (with one unplugged from the battery) to eliminate your battery from the combined system
Unplug one side of your battery, attempt a jump to both cables (with one unplugged from the battery) to eliminate your battery from the combined system
#10
#11
I put it back on the battery tender tonight, lets see what happens.
Before that, I attempted to jump the starter solenoid with a small screw driver, I was able to get the starter to turn, but the truck was not willing to fire and run. Still dead in the water. After my tender reads full charge if it does not want to crank, i'll pull the battery and have it tested.
To me, it seems like communication from ignition to starter is lost. Which makes me fear a body control module or chip/vats issue, but again, no security light.
Key on it was 11.8v.
Before that, I attempted to jump the starter solenoid with a small screw driver, I was able to get the starter to turn, but the truck was not willing to fire and run. Still dead in the water. After my tender reads full charge if it does not want to crank, i'll pull the battery and have it tested.
To me, it seems like communication from ignition to starter is lost. Which makes me fear a body control module or chip/vats issue, but again, no security light.
Key on it was 11.8v.
#13
#14
#15
Still dead in the water, haven't messed with it since I don't need it on the daily. Now that the holidays are just about over with I will probably be getting it down to the dealership to it next week.
Everything appeared well seated. It does have a mileage count when the key is off, but once turned it is blank. Would that still be somewhat related to BCM? The drivers seat still moves forward and I can still make adjustments in the drivers info center.
Everything appeared well seated. It does have a mileage count when the key is off, but once turned it is blank. Would that still be somewhat related to BCM? The drivers seat still moves forward and I can still make adjustments in the drivers info center.