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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 09:11 PM
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towing help plz

Ok guys I have a 13 super cab 5.0 4x4 lariat 3.55 gears the trucks gvwr is 7350.
The toy hauler is a front deck loading trailer type. I have 2000lbs of toys. The camper is 6277 dry with hitch weight of 629 and gvwr of 9500lbs. Can my truck pull this load. I will have the high dollar load distribution hitch and might add helper bags if needed? I know there is a math to this. Dealer said I'm fine but they would tell ya anything.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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It will tow it but you will be over limits. You are nearing 3/4 ton territory with that trailer.

Go run the truck over some scales and get the unloaded weight. Subtract that from 7350 and that will give you max load. Load is anything you put in the truck plus the tongue weight of the trailer.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 09:55 AM
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 10:34 AM
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What would the tongue weight be with your toys loaded into the front of the toyhauler?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by glc
It will tow it but you will be over limits. You are nearing 3/4 ton territory with that trailer.

Go run the truck over some scales and get the unloaded weight. Subtract that from 7350 and that will give you max load. Load is anything you put in the truck plus the tongue weight of the trailer.
I'm looking at a different one now it's 5200 dry do I'd be more around 7200-8000 loaded think I can do that
 
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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadie
What would the tongue weight be with your toys loaded into the front of the toyhauler?
Idk man
 
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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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If the tongue weight without the toy is known, you can calculate the tongue weight with the toys. If the center of the toy is 10' from the hitch ball and 15' from the center of the trailer axles, multiply 15/25 x the weight of the toy and add that to the specified trailer hitch weight without a toy. Or I think that is the way you do it. It's been while.
 

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Old Dec 12, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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I still like glc's idea of running over a scale rather than guessing.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 02:58 AM
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You are about 1600lbs uner your max tow limit. Verify your gear ratio is a 3.55 because most 4x4 come with 3.73
 
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 03:02 AM
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It's not about the tongue weight it's about the gcwr. Gross combined weight rating is in place because of braking and hauling. These are things that most people are not educated on.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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It's not about the tongue weight it's about the gcwr. Gross combined weight rating is in place because of braking and hauling. These are things that most people are not educated on.
Not just that - it's also truck GVWR, axle GAWR, and payload ratings. You will almost always run out of GVWR/payload before you run out of GCWR or max tow rating. Tongue weight directly affects GVWR/GAWR/payload.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Just to echo what glc posted, I've found it's VERY easy to exceed GAWR with even a small trailer and a modest load in the bed of the truck. And, this is with a properly set up Weight Distributing Hitch being used.

I think there is NO substitute for weighing your rig in a towing setup condition on a CAT scale. The process is simple and it is inexpensive.

To ericspainter - I think you need a 3/4 ton truck to safely pull even the 5000 # trailer with the loaded weights you are talking about. The tongue weight on that thing would be between 800-1200#. All of that additional weight has to be borne by your truck's axles. And, you have to add the weight of any additional people and equipment you are carrying in your truck.

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Old Dec 17, 2015 | 08:57 PM
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Hopefully, his truck has the larger axle bearings. The little ones are on my 02F150.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2015 | 12:46 AM
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Hopefully, his truck has the larger axle bearings. The little ones are on my 02F150.
Which is specifically why I got the HD PAYLOAD PACKAGE.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2015 | 11:58 AM
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Not just that - it's also truck GVWR, axle GAWR, and payload ratings. You will almost always run out of GVWR/payload before you run out of GCWR or max tow rating. Tongue weight directly affects GVWR/GAWR/payload.
Tongue weight has nothing to do with gvwr.
GVWR- Gross vehicle weight rating. What the total weight of the vehicle can weigh going down the road. That will tie hand and hand with payload as your truck payload cannot exceed GVWR.
PAYLOAD- Total amount of weight that the truck will be hauling with passengers weight included.
GCWR- Gross combined weight rating, truck, trailer, cargo, and passengers going down the road.

Department of transportation has the right to stop your vehicle if it suspects that you are over loaded. I weighed my screw 4x4 6ft truck full of fuel and it weighed in @5750. Did this at a recycling center. They have a bay that's about 50ft long. When I get my rv I plan on weighing it after cargo is loaded to give me information. When loading your gear you should always keep the weight off the tongue.try to keep over the axles of the trailer.

My truck being a HD, I have a 2500# payload. Minus my *** it = 2220. Though my truck can handle it I won't haul any more than 2000#. Gasoline engines loose performance in elevation. 3-4%per 1000ft. Being that I am 4000ft above sea level I limit my hauling capabilities.

Hope this helps. I grew up in the trucking industry and am fairly knowledgable, if any one has any questions.
 
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