31 new pics of 2009 from Autoblog
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Originally Posted by freekyFX4
You apparently haven't been around long, or you would know that arguing with Tbird69 is pointless. He's always right...you're always wrong. Get over it. His opinion is gospel...your opinion sucks. He will be the first to let you know. He's allowed to talk bad about things, but you better not put his truck down. Period. pretty soon he'll be telling me to leave because I have "an ugly Super Duty" that "looks like Ford built it, ran it into a wall, then shipped it".
He really needs to get over himself!
And arguing with Stealth is almost as bad.
He really needs to get over himself!And arguing with Stealth is almost as bad.
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Originally Posted by scott1981
The point is the new motor is coming, multiple sources clearly spell that out for you. When you make comments like "No 6.2" it shows you havent bothered to research anything about this new truck
How do you know the 6.2 is coming out??? Is it because of some people on here say it is?? There saying it is does not mean it is...It's there OPINION that it is. Now if ford would just say it's coming out that would shut me and alot of other people up. And I can assure you I have done as much if not more research on this truck as anyone.
I have no gripes about this truck other than ford has not said FOR SURE that the 6.2 engine is coming out next year like some say.
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From: South Florida
Originally Posted by Tbird69
The '09 Ram just has more of the things I'll be looking for in my next truck.
did Dodge even touch the frame from the last Ram......last time i checked that was the most important part of a truck, not how fast you get from 0 to 60, or if can stow sports **** in your already crappy bed walls
with the F-150 i really don't like the grille and how it doesn't have a 6.2L but am i going to cry when a Ram passes me on the highway......im 19 and some of you need to grow up
a truck is supposed to be a truck first and a sports car later, if you believe it the other way around i don't think you should be driving a truck....but i guess i can't stop you
P.S. my mom called the new Ram "an obese shark"
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From: Marshall, Tx
Originally Posted by MrSquirrel
by that you mean less towing capacity and lower payload ratings, also shotty reliability when compared to an F-150, also that fact of the matter that it is a Dodge
did Dodge even touch the frame from the last Ram......last time i checked that was the most important part of a truck, not how fast you get from 0 to 60, or if can stow sports **** in your already crappy bed walls
with the F-150 i really don't like the grille and how it doesn't have a 6.2L but am i going to cry when a Ram passes me on the highway......im 19 and some of you need to grow up
a truck is supposed to be a truck first and a sports car later, if you believe it the other way around i don't think you should be driving a truck....but i guess i can't stop you
P.S. my mom called the new Ram "an obese shark"
did Dodge even touch the frame from the last Ram......last time i checked that was the most important part of a truck, not how fast you get from 0 to 60, or if can stow sports **** in your already crappy bed walls
with the F-150 i really don't like the grille and how it doesn't have a 6.2L but am i going to cry when a Ram passes me on the highway......im 19 and some of you need to grow up
a truck is supposed to be a truck first and a sports car later, if you believe it the other way around i don't think you should be driving a truck....but i guess i can't stop you
P.S. my mom called the new Ram "an obese shark"
The all-new 2009 Dodge Ram uses a low-torsion frame design that contributes to stability and handling precision while decreasing noise, vibration and harshness. Two frame lengths are available: 120-inch and 140-inch.
Portions of the frame are hydroformed for dimensional accuracy (hydroforming reduces the amount of welding that leads to distortion), and side rails are fully boxed. The front frame section incorporates advanced, high-strength steel that maintains overall strength and durability while saving approximately 30 pounds. New for 2009 are redesigned tow-hook brackets (four-wheel drive models). The rear section of the 2009 Dodge Ram’s frame is all new, and supports Dodge’s new multi-link coil-spring rear suspension.
The 2009 Dodge Ram is capable of handling a payload of up to an estimated 1,840 pounds and towing up to an estimated 9,100 pounds.
Portions of the frame are hydroformed for dimensional accuracy (hydroforming reduces the amount of welding that leads to distortion), and side rails are fully boxed. The front frame section incorporates advanced, high-strength steel that maintains overall strength and durability while saving approximately 30 pounds. New for 2009 are redesigned tow-hook brackets (four-wheel drive models). The rear section of the 2009 Dodge Ram’s frame is all new, and supports Dodge’s new multi-link coil-spring rear suspension.
The 2009 Dodge Ram is capable of handling a payload of up to an estimated 1,840 pounds and towing up to an estimated 9,100 pounds.
And which F150 are you speaking of when you talk about reliability? Take a look through the 2004 section and I will think that you will find several threads detailing engine/suspension/transmission/electronic problems that have and continue to occur in the current model. All manufacturers turn out duds and Ford is no exception.
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Originally Posted by MrSquirrel
by that you mean less towing capacity and lower payload ratings, also shotty reliability when compared to an F-150, also that fact of the matter that it is a Dodge
did Dodge even touch the frame from the last Ram......last time i checked that was the most important part of a truck, not how fast you get from 0 to 60, or if can stow sports **** in your already crappy bed walls
with the F-150 i really don't like the grille and how it doesn't have a 6.2L but am i going to cry when a Ram passes me on the highway......im 19 and some of you need to grow up
a truck is supposed to be a truck first and a sports car later, if you believe it the other way around i don't think you should be driving a truck....but i guess i can't stop you
P.S. my mom called the new Ram "an obese shark"
did Dodge even touch the frame from the last Ram......last time i checked that was the most important part of a truck, not how fast you get from 0 to 60, or if can stow sports **** in your already crappy bed walls
with the F-150 i really don't like the grille and how it doesn't have a 6.2L but am i going to cry when a Ram passes me on the highway......im 19 and some of you need to grow up
a truck is supposed to be a truck first and a sports car later, if you believe it the other way around i don't think you should be driving a truck....but i guess i can't stop you
P.S. my mom called the new Ram "an obese shark"
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From: South Florida
Originally Posted by Oxlander
FWIW Dodge did touch the frame, and the engine, and the transmission, and the interior, and the suspension.
And as you can see in that quote, it looks like Dodge has improved the Ram's capabilities to be at least equal to that of Ford.
And which F150 are you speaking of when you talk about reliability? Take a look through the 2004 section and I will think that you will find several threads detailing engine/suspension/transmission/electronic problems that have and continue to occur in the current model. All manufacturers turn out duds and Ford is no exception.
And as you can see in that quote, it looks like Dodge has improved the Ram's capabilities to be at least equal to that of Ford.
And which F150 are you speaking of when you talk about reliability? Take a look through the 2004 section and I will think that you will find several threads detailing engine/suspension/transmission/electronic problems that have and continue to occur in the current model. All manufacturers turn out duds and Ford is no exception.
but it is nice to see the Ram has a new frame....its unfortunate that they are making a bigger deal about god damn HP than about the frame cause it sure seems the new hemi is the highlight of the truck.....when it should be its frame
what are you talking about when you say has equaled its capabilities? are you talking about the 04+ F-150 or the 97+ F-150? cause the new Ram ratings look around the same as the out going one that last time i checked did not match the current F-150
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Originally Posted by Tbird69
I mean basic things like Auto 4, places for real storage, a much better looking interior, should I continue? Oh, it's also not as ugly as the '09 F150. What does your mom say about that. Yeah, your all grown up.
oh and what is "real" storage?
oh please continue.....
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Originally Posted by MrSquirrel
but it is nice to see the Ram has a new frame....its unfortunate that they are making a bigger deal about god damn HP than about the frame cause it sure seems the new hemi is the highlight of the truck.....when it should be its frame
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From: Marshall, Tx
Originally Posted by MrSquirrel
what are you talking about when you say has equaled its capabilities? are you talking about the 04+ F-150 or the 97+ F-150? cause the new Ram ratings look around the same as the out going one that last time i checked did not match the current F-150
In the box the Ram is rated for 1870lbs and on the hitch it is rated for 9100lbs. I'm pretty sure that puts it in the ball park with the F150.
Since the Hp and Torque numbers for the '09 F150 didn't change much, I'm thinking that the newer Ford will have capacities similar to the current model.
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Originally Posted by Oxlander
I'm using the info for the '04-'08 F150 and the newly release '09 Ram info.
In the box the Ram is rated for 1870lbs and on the hitch it is rated for 9100lbs. I'm pretty sure that puts it in the ball park with the F150.
Since the Hp and Torque numbers for the '09 F150 didn't change much, I'm thinking that the newer Ford will have capacities similar to the current model.
In the box the Ram is rated for 1870lbs and on the hitch it is rated for 9100lbs. I'm pretty sure that puts it in the ball park with the F150.
Since the Hp and Torque numbers for the '09 F150 didn't change much, I'm thinking that the newer Ford will have capacities similar to the current model.
a ford rep claimed they will already have best in class in a few different categories..
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Originally Posted by JBMX928
a ford rep claimed they will already have best in class in a few different categories..
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Originally Posted by Tbird69
The problem here is everybody claims to be "best in class". All of Fords numbers are for a "properly equipped" F150, not everyone will buy one that's properly equipped. I'd like to see Ford advertise based on the numbers for the truck that the majority will buy.
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Originally Posted by Tbird69
The problem here is everybody claims to be "best in class". All of Fords numbers are for a "properly equipped" F150, not everyone will buy one that's properly equipped. I'd like to see Ford advertise based on the numbers for the truck that the majority will buy.
Ford has been the leader for a while, you know the numbers are going to be serious when they are released. Until those are out no one knows what the most capable truck will be in 09. One things for sure, Dodge and Ford will have the upper hand. They have had time to watch and react to what Toyota and Chevy have done. They are already offering 4,000 off and 0% on Tundras here in Texas, once the new Ram and 150 hit the lots I think Yota will be offering rebates like those Ford was having to offer this year
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From: Alberta
Originally Posted by Oxlander
I'm using the info for the '04-'08 F150 and the newly release '09 Ram info.
In the box the Ram is rated for 1870lbs and on the hitch it is rated for 9100lbs. I'm pretty sure that puts it in the ball park with the F150.
Since the Hp and Torque numbers for the '09 F150 didn't change much, I'm thinking that the newer Ford will have capacities similar to the current model.
In the box the Ram is rated for 1870lbs and on the hitch it is rated for 9100lbs. I'm pretty sure that puts it in the ball park with the F150.
Since the Hp and Torque numbers for the '09 F150 didn't change much, I'm thinking that the newer Ford will have capacities similar to the current model.
...where are the ford published power numbers?....a 6speed will increase hauling capability. Two motors can have the same peak torque and horsepower ratings and pull quite differently for a given tranny & axle config. Hp & torque can rise early in the rpm range and peak lower than let's say another motor that peaks signifcantly higher & whose torque and hp plot is much 'steeper'.....the first motor would have the higher towing rating.