what speed did you hit it at?

 

i think i was going about 45, what happened was it was raining all morning and warm then the sun came out about 2ish and it got pretty cold, we went to dinner and the streets were wet and came out and they were starting to get slick, about an hour later i left and i knew it was slick but I-90 is always well taken care of so i knew once i got on it i was fine but i think i hit the gas right as i went over a painted line and those are slick as snot when wet or icy and i think thats what started it. fish tail to the right hit the jersey barrier on the right, spun around and the bumper hit the barrier. truck turned off, luckily it started and i gunned it to the other side before i could be hit. the bumper was rubbing and pushing against the front left tire and the front right tire the linkage was broken so i just drove it into the dirt

i think because the ice happened so fast DOT wasnt out yet, they were as soon as the cop came.

anyway, hopefully theres no frame damage, havent wanted/needed a big bumper so it will go back the same way. i didnt see any fluids leaking so thats good. the rear bumper needs to be replaced, i would probably just leave the dent it the right rear quarter panel. all the lines along the doors looked fine

if they do say its totaled, i would love to get the new F-150, which i dont need a truck but love the comfort, safety, being up high etc and i go up the mountains a lot but its most likely out of the question. one thing that was great about this one is we got 0% financing for 72 months so everything goes to principal

 

total estimate from repair shop: $16,872.94

unfortunately it needed a new frame. i dont know what the insurance company is going to do, if they considered it totaled, they wont give us crap for it so.....

 

thats just unlucky man

 

ouch! good luck with what ever happens.

 

Can't be bent bad from the limited pics .... they can't straighten these frames????

I know they have frame sections for them.

http://www.i-car.com/pdf/advantage/o...008/022508.pdf

 

from what the previous poster said about having to replace his frame and yes it cant be that bad but they do need to be replaced

 

Some info on frame repair. One other problem with repair/straightening is that at least part of the frame is hydro-formed, which means the metal can be thinner giving the same strength. The thinner metal may be tough to weld. That and other considerations, considering it is tubular and getting to area to do repair may be a problem. In which case it may be cheaper to replace rather than try to repair.

Another consideration for replacement, is that it is not repaired and is just like it was when it was purchased. You will not have drive-ability problems because it wasn't quite brought back to specs. Biggest problem is ensuring that everything was move over properly from one frame to the other. That is a lot of labor right there. Especially when you think about all those little pieces that are attached to the frame.

 

Wow, that sucks! I feel for you....

 

Did body and frame work for longer than a lot of you have been alive. I freely admit that with hydro formed frames it is different than the standard pressed frames used to be, but it's more an issue of the insurance co. CYA than not being possible to do it properly when the damage is fairly light. The insurance companies used to do things A LOT different than they do now. Still more CYA than it is not being possible to do it right. I can tell you for a fact, ALL BODY MEN ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL. Myself and 2 brothers have over 110 years total in body and frame (we ALWAYS did ALL our own frame work) but I have seen insurance companies have to buy cars back and put them through the salvage auction because they were butchered so bad they couldn't be salvaged, even by a good shop. Things like all the frame replacements that happen today are partly because of changes is materials and construction changes (hydro forming) and partly to CYA (their own) in case one of the many bad body men get the job, butcher it and the insurance co. has to buy it and salvage it. The cost is simply passed on to ALL the policy holders.

(and with the laser measuring systems today, and print-out the insurance co. sometimes require, there should be NO problem with getting it back to exact specs.)

 

cot damn. I didn't think that would bend the frame, but I guess it makes sense since the bumper was pushed so far back.

It's a 3 year old truck, why wouldn't they give you good money to replace it?
I know they'll give you a hard time, but keep in mind, dealing with them is like dealing with a used car dealer...everything is negotiable.
Don't settle on their first offer unless by some miracle it's a fair one.

 

ha yeah thats true, if they do consider it totaled were just expecting a low ball offer

but yes i will definitely try to get the best deal

 

Get a second opinion from another body shop, I can't imagine the frames that bad that a good body man can't fix it

 

Glad you're okay.

 

Sorry to hear, glad your ok