You look mighty HOT yourself there....love that lift....wish they would produce one for the Titan....dang it you Fords have all the GOODIES!

I see your rig is "for sale".....thinking about a Titan?

You should come play with us...we are heading to Paragon in October for a little R&R. We had an FX4 tag along last time...it was a beast in the muddy waters! Although...we had to slow the caravan back home down a bit...kept loosing him on the hills of PA! It certainly was an awesome truck though!

Opps....looks like I highjacked the thread....sorry...carry on!

 

That is another thing, it is finally nice to have a platform that has lots of aftermarket support and something nice enough to consider adding stuff to.

My first car was an 87 Olds Cutlass Sierra, 96 Nissan Sentra, 2000 Dodge Dakota, and now a 05 F150. Its my first new vehicle bought off the lot and I am very pleased with it.

 

this has got to be the very first thread ever in f150online about a Titan that has not gotten carried away, and locked down.

I know if I open up my mouth about the Titan on here, things will go to hell here, so I'll just keep reading on and not open my mouth at all about that jap thing called a Titan.. carry on...

 

F-150 5.4L
300 hp @ 5000 rpms
365 lb.-ft. @ 3,750 rpms

Titan 5.6L
317 hp @ 5,200 rpms
385 lb.-ft. @ 3,400 rpms

cant argue with those numbers..

plus the fact that the titan gets more torque to the ground..

point is ford screwed up.. buttom line..

hopefully the rumors are true and ford will rediem itself by putting a more powerfull triton with a 6 speed and a diesel in the F-150..

as far as im concerned this truck should already have a smaller powerstroke, a larger triton, a 6 speed tranny and be knocking on the GVWR of 8500 lbs..

i wouldnt mind having a 6000lbs truck so long as i can have atleast 1 ton of payload capacity, tow 11,000 lbs and hual as much *** as i can pull..

they have a towboss F-350.. why not a towboss F-150? .. im not saying get rid of the 5.4 triton im just saying replace the 4.2 with the 4.6 and the 4.6 with the 5.4 and so on..

thats what my vision of the F-150 HD should be.. but i guess thats just me..

Cheers!

 

[QUOTE=UberDude]F-150 5.4L
300 hp @ 5000 rpms
365 lb.-ft. @ 3,750 rpms

Titan 5.6L
317 hp @ 5,200 rpms
385 lb.-ft. @ 3,400 rpms

QUOTE]
these are pretty small differences, actually just about equal to the ratio of displacements. Most of the off the line differences probably come from the Titan being lighter. I wonder how the Titan would hold up to 2500+ pounds in the bed, or being able to handle a heavy trailer in a highway or emergency situation? I'm quite confident the F150 is the best light duty truck on the road for those situations.

 

My brother in law has a DSG colored Titan super cab and an Exterra for the Mrs and they are pretty loyal to there Nissans so they say. He has dark *** tint and upgraded his crappy stock wheels to some MT wheels and **** Cepek tires and it has a really good stance. He towns his camper and all that stuff and digs it. He has the base model so I cant compare his interior to my FX4 which I have any done some upgrades to. But as far as sound his sounds really good with the Flowmasters on and the engine is stout.
He gives me compliments on mine and he and the wife love the interior of my truck so we keep it civil and dont talk smack. When I gave him a ride in my Lightning and saw some of the 15K worth of mods I did he was very impressed.
Would I go to the Nissan side because of the stronger engine and couple of cool features? No I am pretty loyal to the many ford vehicles I have owed and have no interest in Nissan but I respect his truck and some of the others I have seen especially the higher end models.
To each there own but man overall I really dig my truck and loved my Lightning and wish I still had it. Oh well if I had to choose a second make of truck if I could not have my Ford then it would be a Ram. Oh well and glad to see a good civil debate/comparison going without people getting all freaky for a change. Keep it up and Keep on Truckin

 

if u know soeone who want to buy it i certainly would look into a used titan and thanks for the compliment i actually have been to parogon with the truck but only to bring my quad's i have never offroaded the truck i would have a fatal heart attack if it got a scratch i am a little ****

 

I'm not normally a huge fan of the Titan, *but* there is a dark blue one with about 8 inches of lift and 37s on 22s rolling around where I live and it looks absolutely amazing. Also has full polished billet grills and tint too. NICE looking truck. I think the reason they look good lifted is because you can't see the funky lines of that ugly cab when it is up so high

My neighbor has a supercab Titan and he really likes it for performance, but he was one the unlucky ones who nearly had it lemoned for the brakes. As far as the *appearance* of build quality, interior quality etc compared to my Lariat? Apples and oranges...

 

[QUOTE=kylakerider]ok heres some more numbers for you.

the drive train in the F-150 with a 5.4L triton has a power loss of 25% going to the wheels and thats being conservitive..

that equals out to only 273 ft/lbs of torque reaching the road from the flywheel..

the drive train in the titan with the 5.6 endurance has a power loss of roughly 15% again being conservitive..

that equals out to.. 327 ft/lbs or torque reaching the road from the flywheel..

thats 54 more ft/lbs going to the road coupled with the fact that its a lighter truck and u have something that will run circles around your F-150..

i'm laying the facts out and making my point.

Ford screwed up in the drive train/engine department..

HOWEVER that doesnt mean im about to go jump in a titan by any stretch of the imagenation

the F-150 has better brakes. a better frame. a better suspension. a better interior and even though the crew cab titan is bigger then the crew cab 150 u cant get a 6.5' bed on that titan

you put 9500lb load on an F-150 and on the titan and lets see who can pull it longer not faster.

Cheers!

 

That's 2640 lbs of cement. It drove just fine. I have also pulled 15,000 pounds before and easily kept up with traffic.

Your tow rating tells you how much you can pull without damaging anything. It doesn't mean you'll be able to keep up with traffic. I towed approximately 15,000 pounds of crap overloaded on a non-gooseneck trailer once because our Dodge 3500 died on the side of the road (transmission, big surprise). At least it was a WD hitch. Other than the rear being loaded to the bump stops, she took off easily and I easily kept up with traffic.

I think a few people have trouble grasping that that the truck market is so close right now. Today we have "half ton pickups" that will accept a ton of payload. The triton was designed ten years ago. The Nissan block is a brand new design and contains many advanced technologies to prolong engine life.

The Ford transmission is likewise dated in comparison to Nissan's offering. Any time you have drivetrain loss, that energy is usually converted to heat. This is the last thing it needs. Less drivetrain loss means less power will required from the engine to get a given load to a certain speed or rate of acceleration. This means less fuel is burnt, there is less stress on the engine, and less load on the transmission. All of this will prolong tranny life.

The engine are transmission were engineered in Japan. I'll take their engineering over American engineering any day of the week.

I will say that Ford is superior to most of the offerings in the chassis department, but the powertrain is long overdue. Your powertrain is a big part of towing. I was able to merge with 65 mph traffic on I-85 with that 15,000 lb load. I had it floored as soon as the trailer finished coming around the corner onto the onramp and got to 65-70 mph for a successful merge with no drama. Even without a trailer brake controller to use the trailer brakes, it stopped just fine.

Any comments about reliabilty without any evidence to support it is worthless. Any comments on towing capability without having even towed with the other truck are worthless as well. I guess every board has their fanboys, we have our own as well.

 

ok..

now if u had hooked 15,000 pounds of to an F-150 and tried that and the F-150 broke or couldnt do it then i'd see the point your trying to make..

heres an even better thought.. put 15,000 pounds behind a Titan and an F-150.. have them both pull it at the same speed for the same distance..

or better yet lets put the weight there recommended to have and do that test..

then lets tear both trucks down and inspect everything and see what wear out the most..

THATS HOW YOU COMPARE VEHICLES..

you cant tell us what you did to tear your truck up and expect us to go "oooo ahhhh thats impressive! yes sir those titans beat F-150's hands down!" because thats not fact..

and your statement "Your tow rating tells you how much you can pull without damaging anything. It doesn't mean you'll be able to keep up with traffic."
stupid statement if i've ever read one.
if my trucks rated to pull 9500 lbs it better Fing pull it and go 85 mph!..

im not a devote ford fanatic just a man getting his facts straight.

is the titan drive train better then an F-150's ? YES
is the titan frame/suspension and brakes better? NO.

Cheers!

 

Loaded down to the max, I am sure the titan will still out pull & out run the F150's. Even my old 2000 grand cherokee limited V8 with the little 4.7 v8 would outrun my 2004 F150 pulling the same load (army jeep on a 20ft trailer).

 

I can't help but add my 2 cents worth to this one, the video is impressive for Nissan owners but there are serveral factors to take into consideration. first being weight, the Nissan is a four door regular bed I would think that it would be heavier another is as noted earlier the Fords wheels never spun that we could see. I once pulled against a chevy that was built similar to the truck I was driving (79 Ford 4X4) and pretty much it was a draw, a couple of weeks later both trucks were entered in a truck pull, same weight class, The Ford full pull, the Chevy 78 feet. I'm not sold on the Titan. As far as I'm concerned if you wan't to talk trash buy a Chevy,Dodge Nissan, or Yota if you want to back it up buy a Ford

 

My first choice to replace my 04 F-150 was a Titan, My first choice to replace my 02 F-150 was a Titan, Only issue I have with Nissan is no 8 Ft box, so I replaced my 02 F-150 with a new 04 F-150.

Nissan Titan's are way to expensive here in Canada, My Dodge Ram SLT is ten grand cheaper than a base 06 Titan crew cab and it will out haul a Titan any day of the week.

Yes the F-150 has the bigger frame, as For brakes, Rottors and pads on my 04 F-150 were replaced at 20,000 Km ( warenty front ) and I hardly towed with it.

If The Titan was made in Japan and not the U.S.A I would bet the build quality would be better, I think booth the F-150 and Titan are on par with build quality.

Nissan was building heavy duty trucks long before the Titan and considering this is thier first real kick in the pants of the F-150, Thumbs up for the Titan...

 

I don't think I'd be "showing off" that pic of an obviously over loaded Titan. The Bumper's about to Drag! And that's less than 3000lbs!!??