Turbocharger for our trucks ???
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08-23-2005, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hellbound F-150
I hate to say it but that is NOT a new body style FRAME on that truck. Nor is the suspension, or doghouse. That IS a mod motor, but it ISNT a stock internal engine. Might not even be a 3 valve.
First off, the lug pattern is a 5 bolt on that truck. The doghouse has a totally different set-up and the engine has different covers, intake and who knows what else.
It is a custom fabricated truck with a new(most likely fiberglass) body sitting on it.
Wont find anything similiar for our engines like he has.
First off, the lug pattern is a 5 bolt on that truck. The doghouse has a totally different set-up and the engine has different covers, intake and who knows what else.
It is a custom fabricated truck with a new(most likely fiberglass) body sitting on it.
Wont find anything similiar for our engines like he has.
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08-23-2005, 10:06 PM
That is a sweet setup on that green truck, if you really want the most power a turbocharger will produce more, turbos have always outperformed superchargers in every application theyve been tested in. You will be hard pressed to find a kit, or you will be paying a pretty penny for a custom setup. Its really slim pickings on turbochargers for a lot of v8 motors, Im not sure why maybe because turbos are illegal in the nhra and even in pro mod they have always been illegal as far as I know there has been some talk of allowing a turbocharged setup in the pro mod class maybe, just maybe, if that does ever happen Id bet we will then see more off the shelf turbo kits for our american v8s.
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08-23-2005, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by one eyed *****
do you have any ideal how different the 2 motors are?deisels use compression like our trucks use spark plugs.compression is what actually ignites each stroke,unlike our motors that use spark plugs.they are 2 totally different sciences,apples and oranges.but you are correct,they are motors,like helicopters and airplanes motors,but totally different.
But your are dead on with the engine differences....A gas engine in NO way , other than being an engine can be equated to a diesel. All turbos are not the same...a turbo on a diesel needs to spool fast since the engine R's out at 3500rpm. So that blows the theroy on turbos not spooling fast enough for a gasser.
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08-24-2005, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotboy8055
A Turbocharger that puts out Over 400 HP and Over 500 TQ @6psi Ha....HA.............HA...........Ha.............H a.... Thats bull**** to the fullest. If That was true nobody would have SC, everybody would spend the extra money for a TC.
Go to Dieselsite.com and check out the trucks over there then come back and tell me it's BS. My 2002 F250 put down 350hp at the wheels with just a Diablo sport programer and a 4" exhaust from the downpipe on back...with the stock turbo. With an H2E I could have got another 30-40hp easy add propane another 75hp.
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08-24-2005, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotboy8055
A Turbocharger that puts out Over 400 HP and Over 500 TQ @6psi Ha....HA.............HA...........Ha.............H a.... Thats bull**** to the fullest. If That was true nobody would have SC, everybody would spend the extra money for a TC.
lol,ive seen plenty of honda 4 cylinders with 1 turbo,put out over 400 hp with no problem,and built 4 cylinders putting down over 500-600.it took more than 6psi,but those motors rev to 9k-10k.
the people who do build the 8 cyl. motors with twin turbos get closer to 1500 hp.
superchargers actually have to rob a little hp from your motor to make them work,remember,its belt driven and all that lag is on the belt of your motor.is a supercharger worth the money,i think so,if your not trying to run 12's in the 1/4.if your trying to run below a 12,you better start thinking of a turbo set up.a basic sc set up is about 5k,id imagine a turbo set up would be closer to 8k-9k.plus alot more tuning.
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Yah They can
Yes, Turbos and Superchargers can put out over 400 HP and 500 TQ, but what I was saying was they CAN'T do that at 6PSI read the forum good. I Just sold my 2000 Honda civic Si with a Jackson Supercharger W/1st stage boost upgrade, and all I got was 221 RWHP @8PSI. And you have to remember that diesel trucks have more power than our trucks because they come with TURBOS stock. Which means Its easier to make more power, just upgrade the turbo.
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08-24-2005, 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by Hotboy8055
Yes, Turbos and Superchargers can put out over 400 HP and 500 TQ, but what I was saying was they CAN'T do that at 6PSI read the forum good. I Just sold my 2000 Honda civic Si with a Jackson Supercharger W/1st stage boost upgrade, and all I got was 221 RWHP @8PSI. And you have to remember that diesel trucks have more power than our trucks because they come with TURBOS stock. Which means Its easier to make more power, just upgrade the turbo.
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08-24-2005, 09:56 PM
Originally Posted by Hotboy8055
A Turbocharger that puts out Over 400 HP and Over 500 TQ @6psi Ha....HA.............HA...........Ha.............H a.... Thats bull**** to the fullest. If That was true nobody would have SC, everybody would spend the extra money for a TC.
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08-24-2005, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotboy8055
--- 2000 Honda civic Si -----221 RWHP @8PSI.
Wow, a RWD civic, now that I gotta see.
I don't see how it isn't possible to make that power on 6psi........We come stock with 300hp, 100hp from an intercooled 6psi on a V8 is very easy for me to believe. Hell the Roush SC kit has 6 psi and no cooler and makes something like 425. Turbos kick ****! I turboed my car about a year ago and it is the greatest thing ever. I used a little IHI VJ-11 turbo that is very quick spooling and talk about having instant boost from a cruising speed in 5th gear! Here's a few pics of it for ****s n' giggles.
And yes............blue is my favorite color........
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08-25-2005, 12:53 PM
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Stop crying I wasn't bashing, I was simply adding to this post so that other people won't be going out and buying something and being disapointed in the results, and then have to spend more money to upgrade It. Not to say there going to be disapointed with a 6psi Turbo, but If you tell me it adds 200 more HP and it doesn't Id be disapointed. And I would put my little 221HP civic against your 300 or 400 HP truck any day.