Leveling kit and towing...
#1
Leveling kit and towing...
So, I have begun towing a 19' boat with my 2004 FX4. As the title suggests, I have a leveling kit (the Revtek aluminum spacers to be exact). With nothing hooked up to the back, the front sits only 1" lower than the back. But with the little boat hooked up, The front sits 1" higher than the back. This makes it extremely uncomfortable to drive and really throws my lighting out of alignment (I'm blinding other drivers). I need a solution. So let's discuss...
I suppose I have two options to correct the problem (add-a-leafs are not an option as they defeat the whole purpose of the leveling kit): (1) install air helper bags or (2) remove the leveling kit. I am considering the pros and cons of each.
Removing the Leveling Kit
Pros
By removing the leveling kit, my truck is back within factory specs, and I will have no angle problems, towing sag issues, alignment will be much easier to achieve, and Ford won't blame the leveling kit for anything in the front end that might be damaged or discovered defective in the future. I also won't be tweaking a truck that Ford engineers came up with through (what I hope is) earnest research and development. Furthermore, there's no other expense...
Cons
Well... The a$$ of my truck is up in the air when I am not towing something.
Installing Helper Bags
Pros
Well, I get the best of both worlds. I am level when I am not towing, and i am level when I am towing. I am free to adjust the back ends ride height regardless of what I am towing.
Cons
I still have a truck that is outside of the factory specs. There's the concern of possible front end damage down the road... Longetivity is clearly an issue.
That's all I've got so far. Did I miss anything? Are there some things I am not considering? I will be towing on a fairly regular basis from this point forward, so that should be taken into account as well. Let's here your thoughts, people...
I suppose I have two options to correct the problem (add-a-leafs are not an option as they defeat the whole purpose of the leveling kit): (1) install air helper bags or (2) remove the leveling kit. I am considering the pros and cons of each.
Removing the Leveling Kit
Pros
By removing the leveling kit, my truck is back within factory specs, and I will have no angle problems, towing sag issues, alignment will be much easier to achieve, and Ford won't blame the leveling kit for anything in the front end that might be damaged or discovered defective in the future. I also won't be tweaking a truck that Ford engineers came up with through (what I hope is) earnest research and development. Furthermore, there's no other expense...
Cons
Well... The a$$ of my truck is up in the air when I am not towing something.
Installing Helper Bags
Pros
Well, I get the best of both worlds. I am level when I am not towing, and i am level when I am towing. I am free to adjust the back ends ride height regardless of what I am towing.
Cons
I still have a truck that is outside of the factory specs. There's the concern of possible front end damage down the road... Longetivity is clearly an issue.
That's all I've got so far. Did I miss anything? Are there some things I am not considering? I will be towing on a fairly regular basis from this point forward, so that should be taken into account as well. Let's here your thoughts, people...
#2
minus, I have the same issues. This weekend I pulled a SeaDoo and the back of the truck was lower than the front. I have the 2" AutoSpring level kit. I'm considering rear leaf helpers, but I'm still not sure. I'd like to hear what others have done to solve this.
#3
What makes it "extremely uncomfortable to drive"? Is it just the look or is it something else?
What makes you think there would be front end damage from the spacers?
Did you adjust the lights after putting on the leveling kit? I wouldn't think that a 2" drop in the rear would blind the other drivers if lights were adjusted properly to begin with...but I could be wrong. If it is the 2" drop when towing that is the problem, then you'd still have the 2" drop when towing with or without the leveling kit.
I wouldn't think that a 19' boat would put a whole lot of weight on the truck, do you have any idea what the tongue weight is? Is it within spec for the truck's towing abilities? If the tongue weight is not excessive (it seems not because of only a 2" drop) then airbags might be overkill.
I regularly haul construction goodies in the bed that result in MUCH more than a 2" drop, and I've never felt uncomfortable driving it.
What makes you think there would be front end damage from the spacers?
Did you adjust the lights after putting on the leveling kit? I wouldn't think that a 2" drop in the rear would blind the other drivers if lights were adjusted properly to begin with...but I could be wrong. If it is the 2" drop when towing that is the problem, then you'd still have the 2" drop when towing with or without the leveling kit.
I wouldn't think that a 19' boat would put a whole lot of weight on the truck, do you have any idea what the tongue weight is? Is it within spec for the truck's towing abilities? If the tongue weight is not excessive (it seems not because of only a 2" drop) then airbags might be overkill.
I regularly haul construction goodies in the bed that result in MUCH more than a 2" drop, and I've never felt uncomfortable driving it.
#4
Originally Posted by valley818
minus, I have the same issues. This weekend I pulled a SeaDoo and the back of the truck was lower than the front. I have the 2" AutoSpring level kit. I'm considering rear leaf helpers, but I'm still not sure. I'd like to hear what others have done to solve this.
#5
Originally Posted by NukePooch
What makes it "extremely uncomfortable to drive"? Is it just the look or is it something else?
What makes you think there would be front end damage from the spacers?
Did you adjust the lights after putting on the leveling kit? I wouldn't think that a 2" drop in the rear would blind the other drivers if lights were adjusted properly to begin with...but I could be wrong. If it is the 2" drop when towing that is the problem, then you'd still have the 2" drop when towing with or without the leveling kit.
I wouldn't think that a 19' boat would put a whole lot of weight on the truck, do you have any idea what the tongue weight is? Is it within spec for the truck's towing abilities? If the tongue weight is not excessive (it seems not because of only a 2" drop) then airbags might be overkill.
I regularly haul construction goodies in the bed that result in MUCH more than a 2" drop, and I've never felt uncomfortable driving it.
What makes you think there would be front end damage from the spacers?
Did you adjust the lights after putting on the leveling kit? I wouldn't think that a 2" drop in the rear would blind the other drivers if lights were adjusted properly to begin with...but I could be wrong. If it is the 2" drop when towing that is the problem, then you'd still have the 2" drop when towing with or without the leveling kit.
I wouldn't think that a 19' boat would put a whole lot of weight on the truck, do you have any idea what the tongue weight is? Is it within spec for the truck's towing abilities? If the tongue weight is not excessive (it seems not because of only a 2" drop) then airbags might be overkill.
I regularly haul construction goodies in the bed that result in MUCH more than a 2" drop, and I've never felt uncomfortable driving it.
#6
#7
No offense intended, just wondered if it was the look you were worried about.
The reason the rear is higher than the front from factory is to provide for load carrying capacity...I'm not sure, but I doubt a 2" drop in ride height in the rear will even get much into the "overload" part of the springs, which is the extra half-leaf at the bottom of the spring pack. It's factory designed with the capability to haul much more.
Any weight on the rear will "lighten" the front slightly, nothing can be done about that except to use a 5th-wheel type hitch that puts the weight in front of the rear axle. Removing the front spacers or installing rear airbags won't do anything to the steering feel, it's the weight behind the rear axle that lifts the front. Towing or hauling anything will handle differently than an empty truck...and again, nothing can be done about that. A 2" drop when towing might lighten the front end, but if the towed load (plus hauled items in the truck) is within factory spec, then you should be okay as far as durability and safety, as long as you drive accordingly (i.e. stop earlier, drive slower, etc.).
I personally wouldn't worry about it, but for peace of mind....Any modifications to a vehicle can result in adverse effects, so if you're worried about extreme long-term damage, it would probably ease your mind if you were to remove the leveling kit and return it to stock. Keep in mind though, the steering feel will stay much the same when towing, but you would get rid of the reduced "nose-up" feeling...at least until you tow the boat and haul a bed-load of gear too...(grin)
The reason the rear is higher than the front from factory is to provide for load carrying capacity...I'm not sure, but I doubt a 2" drop in ride height in the rear will even get much into the "overload" part of the springs, which is the extra half-leaf at the bottom of the spring pack. It's factory designed with the capability to haul much more.
Any weight on the rear will "lighten" the front slightly, nothing can be done about that except to use a 5th-wheel type hitch that puts the weight in front of the rear axle. Removing the front spacers or installing rear airbags won't do anything to the steering feel, it's the weight behind the rear axle that lifts the front. Towing or hauling anything will handle differently than an empty truck...and again, nothing can be done about that. A 2" drop when towing might lighten the front end, but if the towed load (plus hauled items in the truck) is within factory spec, then you should be okay as far as durability and safety, as long as you drive accordingly (i.e. stop earlier, drive slower, etc.).
I personally wouldn't worry about it, but for peace of mind....Any modifications to a vehicle can result in adverse effects, so if you're worried about extreme long-term damage, it would probably ease your mind if you were to remove the leveling kit and return it to stock. Keep in mind though, the steering feel will stay much the same when towing, but you would get rid of the reduced "nose-up" feeling...at least until you tow the boat and haul a bed-load of gear too...(grin)
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#8
Well, if you are only going to be towing the one trailer, and no others, I might suggest a weight distribution hitch. They work awesome, and the truck rides just about level when hooked up. I have the autospring 2" kit in my truck, and I haul a 16' enclosed trailer loaded with 4 ATV's and gear when we go racing. Without the hitch my truck squatted really bad, same situation as here. But when I got the hitch and hooked it up, truck sits completely level now when towing. The truck feels very stable towing, as the weight is distributed over all the axles of the truck and trailer. I would highly suggest looking into on of these hitches. Here is some more information if this is a viable option for you...
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#9
Originally Posted by roboots21
Well, if you are only going to be towing the one trailer, and no others, I might suggest a weight distribution hitch. They work awesome, and the truck rides just about level when hooked up. I have the autospring 2" kit in my truck, and I haul a 16' enclosed trailer loaded with 4 ATV's and gear when we go racing. Without the hitch my truck squatted really bad, same situation as here. But when I got the hitch and hooked it up, truck sits completely level now when towing. The truck feels very stable towing, as the weight is distributed over all the axles of the truck and trailer. I would highly suggest looking into on of these hitches. Here is some more information if this is a viable option for you...
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#11
Originally Posted by minus_13
For the cost of a weight distribution hitch, I would rather get the air bags... hmmm....
#12
I look at it this way; I have seen many lifted trucks that always are nose higher and pulling heavy loads. I don't know if it will cause problems later but I don't tow everyday, every weekend and it isn't a serious work truck that I carry out of payload. Only do it here and there so it should be alright.
#14
I'm very happy with my firestone air bags, very easy to install, no drill, I tow appox. 6000# with my 05 scab 5.4, when not towing I run the bags at 5 to 10 # and don't even know they exsist, when towing i run 35#to 40# and this levels the truck to stock hieght and adds some firmness. Going to upgrade shocks soon the stock ones are terrible on the small bumps, i think aftermarket shocks will also help towing also. Pay the extra and get onboard compressor it's nice to make adjustments anytime, the bags will raise the back of the truck 6 to 8" above stock which comes in handy when towing over a high driveway to prevent the hitch from dragging. I would take all that other stuff off it will just ruin your ride when not towing.
#15