Leveling kit and towing...
#17
Install the air bags.
I hope you (and everyone else here who has installed a levelling kit) have already adjusted your headlights down to compensate, or else you are already blinding other drivers before you even hook up to the boat.
Even if you remove the levelling kit, if your headlights are set to the manufacturer's set position, you will be blinding people with the boat hooked up. Out of courtesy to other drivers you should always turn your headlights down any time you have much weight on the back of the truck. It's easier to use air bags than to keep adjusting your lights every time.
Some people don't think it's a big deal, but it is.. I drive 100-125,000 miles a year and at least half of that is in the dark (winter time). People blinding me with their headlights while towing really irks me off, because it happens so often and on the roads I travel on (twisty 2-lane highway) it can easily cause an accident. A little consideration for other drivers goes a long way and it definitely does not go unappreciated by us that spend a lot of time out on the highway.
I installed Air Lift Super Duty airbags to my '03 silverado 2500HD and it was a breeze.. They make a nice kit and IMHO the design is nicer than Firestone's..
The Load Controller in-cab gauge and onboard compressor is very nice to use also but it definitely lengthens the installation time. It is nice to be able to pump up or deflate your air bags at the press of a b utton though, not to mention being able to monitor the air pressure!
I hope you (and everyone else here who has installed a levelling kit) have already adjusted your headlights down to compensate, or else you are already blinding other drivers before you even hook up to the boat.
Even if you remove the levelling kit, if your headlights are set to the manufacturer's set position, you will be blinding people with the boat hooked up. Out of courtesy to other drivers you should always turn your headlights down any time you have much weight on the back of the truck. It's easier to use air bags than to keep adjusting your lights every time.
Some people don't think it's a big deal, but it is.. I drive 100-125,000 miles a year and at least half of that is in the dark (winter time). People blinding me with their headlights while towing really irks me off, because it happens so often and on the roads I travel on (twisty 2-lane highway) it can easily cause an accident. A little consideration for other drivers goes a long way and it definitely does not go unappreciated by us that spend a lot of time out on the highway.
I installed Air Lift Super Duty airbags to my '03 silverado 2500HD and it was a breeze.. They make a nice kit and IMHO the design is nicer than Firestone's..
The Load Controller in-cab gauge and onboard compressor is very nice to use also but it definitely lengthens the installation time. It is nice to be able to pump up or deflate your air bags at the press of a b utton though, not to mention being able to monitor the air pressure!
Last edited by Camstyn; 07-25-2005 at 03:06 PM.
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#20
Originally Posted by Camstyn
Install the air bags.
I hope you (and everyone else here who has installed a levelling kit) have already adjusted your headlights down to compensate, or else you are already blinding other drivers before you even hook up to the boat.
Even if you remove the levelling kit, if your headlights are set to the manufacturer's set position, you will be blinding people with the boat hooked up. Out of courtesy to other drivers you should always turn your headlights down any time you have much weight on the back of the truck. It's easier to use air bags than to keep adjusting your lights every time.
Some people don't think it's a big deal, but it is.. I drive 100-125,000 miles a year and at least half of that is in the dark (winter time). People blinding me with their headlights while towing really irks me off, because it happens so often and on the roads I travel on (twisty 2-lane highway) it can easily cause an accident. A little consideration for other drivers goes a long way and it definitely does not go unappreciated by us that spend a lot of time out on the highway.
I installed Air Lift Super Duty airbags to my '03 silverado 2500HD and it was a breeze.. They make a nice kit and IMHO the design is nicer than Firestone's..
The Load Controller in-cab gauge and onboard compressor is very nice to use also but it definitely lengthens the installation time. It is nice to be able to pump up or deflate your air bags at the press of a b utton though, not to mention being able to monitor the air pressure!
I hope you (and everyone else here who has installed a levelling kit) have already adjusted your headlights down to compensate, or else you are already blinding other drivers before you even hook up to the boat.
Even if you remove the levelling kit, if your headlights are set to the manufacturer's set position, you will be blinding people with the boat hooked up. Out of courtesy to other drivers you should always turn your headlights down any time you have much weight on the back of the truck. It's easier to use air bags than to keep adjusting your lights every time.
Some people don't think it's a big deal, but it is.. I drive 100-125,000 miles a year and at least half of that is in the dark (winter time). People blinding me with their headlights while towing really irks me off, because it happens so often and on the roads I travel on (twisty 2-lane highway) it can easily cause an accident. A little consideration for other drivers goes a long way and it definitely does not go unappreciated by us that spend a lot of time out on the highway.
I installed Air Lift Super Duty airbags to my '03 silverado 2500HD and it was a breeze.. They make a nice kit and IMHO the design is nicer than Firestone's..
The Load Controller in-cab gauge and onboard compressor is very nice to use also but it definitely lengthens the installation time. It is nice to be able to pump up or deflate your air bags at the press of a b utton though, not to mention being able to monitor the air pressure!
#21
#22
I run the airlift 2000# air bags and absolutely love them. Cost under $200 and theres no drilling of the chassis to install, I installed the kit in less than 1.5 hrs with no special tools. I have a 2.5" leveling kit, tow a 7500 lb fifth wheel trailer and have zero ride height or stability problems.
#23
Just a couple of comments..as to the longevity of the leveling kits...what do you think that does as far as wear to you cv joints due to to the increased angle......hmmmmm Now as to the oiginal post there are a couple of options to you. pogressive helpers that get stiffer as your load increases. These not only maintain your stock ride hight but also help with sagging of the rear and sway control. Summit sells standard leaf helpers ( 40.00 )as well as pogressive coil helpers.( 150.00 )
#24
Originally Posted by 01vert
as to the longevity of the leveling kits...what do you think that does as far as wear to you cv joints due to to the increased angle......hmmmmm
#25
Originally Posted by roboots21
Well, if you are only going to be towing the one trailer, and no others, I might suggest a weight distribution hitch. They work awesome, and the truck rides just about level when hooked up. I have the autospring 2" kit in my truck, and I haul a 16' enclosed trailer loaded with 4 ATV's and gear when we go racing. Without the hitch my truck squatted really bad, same situation as here. But when I got the hitch and hooked it up, truck sits completely level now when towing. The truck feels very stable towing, as the weight is distributed over all the axles of the truck and trailer. I would highly suggest looking into on of these hitches. Here is some more information if this is a viable option for you...
Weight Distribution Hitch Info.
Weight Distribution Hitch Info.
#26
Originally Posted by Thumper38
The Distribution hitch is the way to go! It works perfectly with my 24' travel trailer. Very stable and it looks level!
#27
Minus 13,
I would recommend the bags to help you out.
But, is your trailer is a steel welded together trailer or a galvanized bolt together trailer?? The reason I ask is that if its a galvanized trailer, the axles can (normally) be moved along the frame. A friend of mine bought a boat and it was real bumper heavy on his truck. So I was looking at the trailer and noticed that the axles could be moved along the frame to compensate for different boats. We loosened the bolts that held the leaf spings and moved them about 6 inches forward. This allowed his truck to sit almost perfectly level by giving him less tongue weight. Dont go crazy with this, because too little tongue weight is way worse than not enough, but it might give you the weight transfer you are looking for.
I would recommend the bags to help you out.
But, is your trailer is a steel welded together trailer or a galvanized bolt together trailer?? The reason I ask is that if its a galvanized trailer, the axles can (normally) be moved along the frame. A friend of mine bought a boat and it was real bumper heavy on his truck. So I was looking at the trailer and noticed that the axles could be moved along the frame to compensate for different boats. We loosened the bolts that held the leaf spings and moved them about 6 inches forward. This allowed his truck to sit almost perfectly level by giving him less tongue weight. Dont go crazy with this, because too little tongue weight is way worse than not enough, but it might give you the weight transfer you are looking for.
#28
Originally Posted by Monkey-1
Minus 13,
I would recommend the bags to help you out.
But, is your trailer is a steel welded together trailer or a galvanized bolt together trailer?? The reason I ask is that if its a galvanized trailer, the axles can (normally) be moved along the frame. A friend of mine bought a boat and it was real bumper heavy on his truck. So I was looking at the trailer and noticed that the axles could be moved along the frame to compensate for different boats. We loosened the bolts that held the leaf spings and moved them about 6 inches forward. This allowed his truck to sit almost perfectly level by giving him less tongue weight. Dont go crazy with this, because too little tongue weight is way worse than not enough, but it might give you the weight transfer you are looking for.
I would recommend the bags to help you out.
But, is your trailer is a steel welded together trailer or a galvanized bolt together trailer?? The reason I ask is that if its a galvanized trailer, the axles can (normally) be moved along the frame. A friend of mine bought a boat and it was real bumper heavy on his truck. So I was looking at the trailer and noticed that the axles could be moved along the frame to compensate for different boats. We loosened the bolts that held the leaf spings and moved them about 6 inches forward. This allowed his truck to sit almost perfectly level by giving him less tongue weight. Dont go crazy with this, because too little tongue weight is way worse than not enough, but it might give you the weight transfer you are looking for.
#29
There are a couple of formulas that people use when deciding axle placement. We build trailer from time to time and we use a certain formula that works out great. You go to the exact middle of the bed length of the trailer, not including the tongue. Then you go back one inch for every foot of trailer lenght. So on a 10 foot trailer, it would be 10 inches back from center. Some people use the 60/40 and its pretty close, but this is the one we use.
Boat trailers dont use this formula for two reasons. First, most of the weight of the boat is at the very rear and second, the tongues on boat trailer are alot longer then regular trailers.
Is the axle on your trailer capable of being moved?? On his we only moved it like 5-6 inches and it made a huge difference.
Boat trailers dont use this formula for two reasons. First, most of the weight of the boat is at the very rear and second, the tongues on boat trailer are alot longer then regular trailers.
Is the axle on your trailer capable of being moved?? On his we only moved it like 5-6 inches and it made a huge difference.
#30
Originally Posted by Monkey-1
There are a couple of formulas that people use when deciding axle placement. We build trailer from time to time and we use a certain formula that works out great. You go to the exact middle of the bed length of the trailer, not including the tongue. Then you go back one inch for every foot of trailer lenght. So on a 10 foot trailer, it would be 10 inches back from center. Some people use the 60/40 and its pretty close, but this is the one we use.
Boat trailers dont use this formula for two reasons. First, most of the weight of the boat is at the very rear and second, the tongues on boat trailer are alot longer then regular trailers.
Is the axle on your trailer capable of being moved?? On his we only moved it like 5-6 inches and it made a huge difference.
Boat trailers dont use this formula for two reasons. First, most of the weight of the boat is at the very rear and second, the tongues on boat trailer are alot longer then regular trailers.
Is the axle on your trailer capable of being moved?? On his we only moved it like 5-6 inches and it made a huge difference.