It's in. Got the new RAD installed yesterday. Owner had the 2.02" and 1.42" available. His e-mail to me said, "...it's your choice." Needless to say I chose the 2.02", man what a difference in size!

No questions asked, free loaner for the afternoon, etc.

My hat is off to Dan Wiebold Ford in Nampa, Idaho.


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T.Ray

My Ride:
2001 Lariat Screw, Dk. Highland Green/Arizona Beige, 5.4L 4x4,Tow Package, Off Road, 3.55 LS, Captain's Chairs, Slider, 6-Disc CD, Bed Extender

MODS:
K&N FIPK, Lund "Trident" Bug Shield, Catch-All Floor Liners, Stull Black Billet Grille, Westin Black Nerf Bars, Westin 1-Piece "Sportsman Grille Guard, Husky Splash Guards, V-Tech Slotted Tail Light Covers, Ventshade Vent Visors, Bedrug, A.R.E. Z-Series Cap, Dashmat Dash Cover.

Soon:
Superchip,
Gibson or Ravin Exhaust.

 

This is soooo frustrating. Why is it that some of us are getting great service from their dealers and are being told by "FORD FIELD SERVICE ENGINEERS" that this is a misbuild. While others (like me) are getting the story about how the 1.02" radiator is the correct one and works just as well. If you look at the specs for the cooling system for the 4.2L, then yes, this is super cooling radiator because is has 16.50 fins per inch as opposed to 13.97 on the standard 1.02". Same core thickness, just more fins. But thats for a V6!!!! I called the parts dept. at my local dealer (Leif Johnson Ford) here in Austin, and asked him to give me the radiator part numbers for a 2001 SuperCrew with a 5.4L. Guess what, two part numbers!!!!

XL3Z-AA 1.02" Single core
YL3Z-8005-GA 1.42" Single core

If the 1.02" is the right radiator, then why in the hell are there two part numbers?! I'm sick and tired of this. I know there are some of you out there who are getting your's fixed with Ford's blessing. Why aren't we ALL getting our's fixed? ARRRRGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!

Ok, I feel a little better now.... Just needed to vent. Thanks

 

SilverScrew,

Don't worry you'll only feel this way for as long as you own your truck.

 

I have 3 words to say that will positivly get you the correct radiator. No if ands or buts. They are DISPUTE SETTLEMENT BOARD. If you carefully read your owners manual you will read that ford offers an arbitration board that will settle any disputes between customer and ford. Not only will you get corrective action but ford will see these settlements one after another and hopefully do the right thing.Ford does not like these cases coming before the settlement board because if it's true, that you were screwed they will have to resolve the problem. I just won a case through the DSB for the notorious 5.4 rough idle. I fought the dealerships and ford for 2 years and got nowhere until I filed a case with the DSB. I won a full refund of my piece of junk. All I had to do was file this the first day my problem showed and it would have been resolved within 30 days..Yes ford handed me a check for $27,000.00. That was the best day of my life. When the pumbleing idiots at the dealership had to eat their lies and show their true stupidity.
SO LONG ford !!!
HELLO CHEVY

 

For those that haven't seen it. This is from the 2001 source book. No part numbers, but it does give the correct sizes.

I have no idea what this post will look like. Hope it's readable!

COOLING SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS Engine Cooling Trans. Usage Frontal Area (sq. in.) Core Size (in.) Rows of Tubes Fins Per Inch Cooling System Cap. (approx. qts.) Fan Specifications
Height(in) Width(in) Thick. Type No. of Blades Blade Dia. (in.)
4.2L (256) SEFI V-6 Std.,A/C,SC Man. 545 17.07 33.88 1.02 1 13.97 20.1 Nylon 11 19.4
SC w/A/C Man. 545 17.07 33.88 1.02 1 13.97 20.1 Nylon 11 19.4
Std.,A/C,SC Auto. 545 17.07 33.88 1.02 1 13.97 20.1 Nylon 11 19.4
SC w/A/C Auto. 545 17.07 33.88 1.02 1 16.50 23.9 Nylon 11 19.4
4.6L (281) SEFI V-8 Std.,A/C Man. 545 17.07 33.88 1.02 1 13.97 20.6 Nylon 11 19.4
SC Man. 545 17.07 33.88 1.42 1 15.24 23.1 Nylon 11 19.4
Std.,A/C Auto. 545 17.07 33.88 1.02 1 13.97 20.6 Nylon 11 19.4
SC Auto. 545 17.07 33.88 1.42 1 15.24 23.1 Nylon 11 19.4
5.4L (330) SEFI V-8
Std.,A/C Auto. 545 17.07 33.88 1.02 1 16.50 23.9 Nylon 11 19.4
SC Auto. 545 17.07 33.88 1.42 1 15.24 25.5 Nylon 11 19.4


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2001 F150 XLT Supercab Flareside "Sport"
Black
5.4
Smittybuilt step bars

 

RE: my post of 3-30-01 about our friend having the same truck and radiator that we have. (We recieved a new radiator from Town and Country Ford, Nashville, Tn. in 6 days.) His dealer is Little River Ford, Hopkinsville, Ky. He recieved a letter from the dealer today that "in a nut shell" Ford has said he has the right radiator and will not be replacing his. Don't know what action he will take from here, I will post when I hear more. Don't you love that starting his letter out in a nut shell.......geesh.....

 

Well, I just faxed all the information about
the radiator misbuild to my dealer - Walker
Ford in Clearwater. They had not yet heard
about the problem and seemed interested in
helping (we'll see). I just ordered my truck
last week and I made it clear that I want
it built right at the factory and not just
fixed at the dealer. I don't think this problem will be solved for everyone if we have to rely on the good dealers to do the right thing post production. The factory
needs to STOP the misbuild right away. I don't really think Ford wants anymore egg
on their face after the Exploder and the
recent recall on the Expy back windows. Let's
keep our fingers crossed. I know mine are...

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2001 F-150 XLT SS 4X2
Supercab Short Bed

Toreador Red w/ Silver
Medium Graphite

+4.6L Triton
+4 Speed Automatic
+3.55 Limited Slip
+Captains Chairs
+Class III Tow Package
+Sliding Rear Window

Mods wanted:
Leer 100LE Topper
Lund Bug Shield

Factory ordered: 4/4/01

 

I spent 2 hours at the dealership waiting for my radiator and transmission cooler to be replaced with the correct parts. After they removed my old radiator, they unpackaged the 1.42 radiator and discovered that a nipple on the new radiator was broke off. They also had to order the correct fittings for the trans. cooler. So after 2 hours of waiting, I left with the same parts that I arrived with. They also ordered me a new horn and drivers side seat belt assembly. At least they are trying!!!

I still haven't seen the correct trans. cooler, but I do know that it is different than the one that is in my truck now.

 

OPIE,
Please let us know when you see the transmission cooler. My thinking is that the
tranny cooler is O.K. and here is my reasoning.
There are only 2 sizes of coolers listed. The 14 plate and the 22 plate. Even though the plate count doesn't add up I had a 98 4.6L w/towing package and now I have a 5.4L w/towing package. The current cooler on the 5.4L is about 1/3 larger than the old truck with the 4.6L. Therefore I have seen both sizes of cooler and can the new one is larger.
That being the case though why where you not told that your cooler is O.K by the mechanic.
I have had my rad replaced with a 2.2"

 

CanadianScrew,
After reading gah's post regarding the tranny cooler, I thought that I probably had the correct cooler. I was suprised when the service guy told me that he needed to order different fittings. I probably won't get my truck back to the dealer until the end of the month because of turkey hunting and bird dog field trials next week. I'll be sure to let you know what the cooler looks like when I see it.

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2000 F-150 XLT Supercab 4X4,5.4,Off Road,Tow Pkg

 

Hey OPIE,
I'd also be interested to hear if you get a Tom turkey and how your dog does also! Off the subject but maybe there is a place to post in GENERAL.
As far as the rad, I measured mine and I have the wrong one. Just trying to find time to visit the dealer..

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J
Old: '97 f150 XL SC 4x4
NEW: 2001 F-150 XLT SC Flare 5.4L ORP 4X4 3.55
Az Beige
so far:
Westin Black Nerfs
Ravin Z-33 SI/DO
Aerovisors-off road
Bugflector II
AF-1
Duraliner(FORD)
Zaino
Extang Black Max
01L Tails

 

Hey all,
Just got a phone call from my Service Rep and he is ordering the new/correct radiator. I'll let you all know when it's in.

Thanks to everybody for this information. Without it I would have never known about this problem. This is a perfect example of the great community we have here!!!

 

My story: Before my truck was delivered, I notified my dealer, (Sweeney Ford, Greenfield, MA) of the radiator problem. They had not heard of the problem, and I showed them information from this site. They checked their sources and agreed that the 1.42" was the radiator specified by Ford for the Class III tow package.

When the truck was delivered, the dealer verified that I had the 1.02" radiator and contacted the Ford field service engineer. The FSE said that the 1.02" radiator was adequate, but approved a replacement anyway. The 1.42" (YL3Z-8005-GA) was installed today, 22 days after the truck was delivered. The difference in size is really impressive. The only interesting notation on the invoice is that it was a "warranty" repair.

My dealer was very helpful in this whole story. I think that Ford dealers are really motivated by the Customer Satisfaction Survey. If you are dealing with a brand new truck, mention that it will be very hard for you to give the dealer a "Completely satisfied" rating if they don't fix the radiator problem.

Good luck out there.

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Ordered 1/19/01; TPW 3/12/01; ETA 3/26/01; Delivered 3/21/01; radiator replaced with 1.42" 4/12/01

2001 F150 4X4; 5.4; bright red; super cab; short bed; Lariat; captains chairs; class III tow package; electric shift-on-the-fly; 3.55 LSD; sliding rear window

Mods: Westin Platinum nerf bars; ARE "T" cap

Mods in my garage, waiting to be installed: PIAA 80XT's and super white bulbs; Bedrug

Future mods: Manik stainless brush guard

 

I’m new to this board, so I just want to thank everyone for all the good info. I hope this post will clear up some of the issues. I found most of the info on these pages, Screwit has a very good post on 3/22 here is a link he posted just follow the directions on the page. For the 2001 F150 SuperCrew on page 27 it shows 2 Rads. a 1.02 1 row and 2.20 2 row. For the 2000 F150 on page 46 it shows 2 Rads. a 1.02 1 row and 2.20 2 row.
http://fordtraining.com/sb2000/start.htm

In an unrelated post on 4/10 HarleyGuy shows a picture of the owners manual I’m not sure of the year, but it shows only 2 Rads. for the 5.4 a 23.9qt 1 row and 25.5qt 2 row. I checked my owners manual it only has 2 listings for the 5.4 23.9qt 1 row and 25.5qt 2 row, here’s the link, scroll down to the bottom.
https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/004008.html

Now according to the web page in the SourceBook it shows 2 Rads. for the 5.4 a 23.9qt 1.02 1 row and a 25.5qt 1.42 1 row. As I look at all of the data referring to the 4.2, 4.6 and the 5.4 engine, every standard Rad. is 1 row and every upgrade is 2 row. Unless the 1.42 is a 2 row Rad. (which it is not) I will not settle for anything less than a 2.20 2 row Rad.

2001 F150 SuperCrew Lariat Loaded

 

DGV,
Thank you!

I looked up the same information on page 27 of the book; "2001 F-150 Supercrew Technical Specifications". There are only 2 radiators listed: Std.,A/C = 1.02" and SC = 2.20". So, I can't understand why the Supercrew owners are thrilled with getting the 1.42" radiator as a replacement.
Please don't anyone take this as a personal attack, that's not my intent at all! I've been trying to follow this "wrong radiator" issue closely as it affects the Supercrew model, but perhaps I've missed something along the way and need to start over and re-read ALL the different posts and I would find the answer to my own question.

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2001 F150 4X2 XLT Supercrew, D.Wedgewood Blue, 5.4,
3.55LS, Class III, Cargo Cage, DRLs, A.R.E. LS II, etc....