Jim
that sounds great
I agree that Ford can change the spec at any time
All of us agree on that
we just need to see it in print
so far all that's out there says hd cooling
gets the bigger radiator
I don't care if I get a 1.42 single or the
2 core just something bigger then the stock
one.
I'm looking forward to what you find out

 

Please look at the other strand that Jim has concerning the Open Letter to Ford. I wrote some information I found out yesterday conerning the correct radiators that we are suppose to have.

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2000 SuperCab 4x4 XLT
Trailer Towing Pkg.
Off-Road Pkg.
Skid Plates
Red/Gold
Westin Nerf Bars
5.4 The Ole' Slapper
All Pwr Options Ever Invented!!

 

Add my slappin 5.4 w/incorrect 1.02" Radiator to the list. My 99 Expedition w/ tow pkg has 2.00" radiator.

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2001 F150 Lariat SuperCrew White Leather 4x4 w/slappin 5.4L V8 3.55LS
Class III Tow Pkg w/1.00 Radiator
Sliding rear window
6 CD changer
Mods
Huskey Liners
Westin Steps
Michelin LTX M/S 17"
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1999 Epedition XLT White Leather 5.4 4x4 3.73 6 CD changer Class III Tow Pkg W/2.00 Radiator Michelin LTX M/S
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2000 Camaro SS LS1 M-6 Hurst Convertable Leather 6 Cd Changer
Mods
SLP Stainless Exhaust

NO RAIN...

 

Tray,
You wouldn't mind emailing the information on how I can contact the Denver Regional Rep., since I am in the same boat as you and also in that region.

brossman@supercrewowner.com

Thanks!!!

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Craig Brossman
2001 SCrew 5.4L 4WD Lariat
Az Beige/Wedgewood Blue
Cpts. chairs, Moon roof, Tow package, CD changer
3.55 lim. slip, Rear slider, Skid plates
Mods:Ford Bedliner, Ford BugGaurd, Westin Step Bar, WeatherBoot Floor Mats

 

Just thought I'd show you my response to the problem so far:

To Dealer
I just recently bought an F 150 Lariat w/ the 5.4 , off road package, and the class 3 towing package ( among other options ).

It is my understanding that the towing package includes the super cooling upgraded radiator which according to the Ford source book should have a 1.42" core. However my truck has the 1.02" standard radiator? I know that since StarFord is a Blue Oval dealer you will certainly be able to clarify this issue.

Thank you and I look forward to your speedy response.

His Imediate response

We looked at the source book says the 535 package comes with upgrade on the radiator. Which in our understanding is the thicker core. We feel you should come in and have us check it for you to clear this concern up.

Yours turly,

Star Ford Sales and Service Departments

So I guess this matter is dealer dependent. StarFord here in So Cal is a great dealership and at least appears to agree and sounds like they want to clarify the issue w/ me. I will post my results as soon as I go to the dealer this weekend.

 

ATTENTION:

FORD's WARNING

Without laughing, Randy went on to quote from this "engineer" : "The radiator has been redesigned internally to meet or exceed the original super cooling, just now it only takes one small core with little tanks."

I hope someone is a lawyer out there stuck with one of Ford's new "SUPER RADIATOR" f150'S for towing!

Help,
John Herron
Loaded 2000 Lariat(except radiator - so far!)
www.JHerron3@austin.rr.com


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Well guys, here are the quotes of the day from the service manager at Leif Johnson Ford Inc.; "The Regional Ford Service Engineer stated that 'any item is subject to change without notice, and this is one of them". Furthermore, he went on to say: "The radiator has been re-designed- internally to meet or exceed the specs for 'super cooling'", just now somehow done with half of the capacity?
He also stated that there was a "Special Service Bulletin" coming to the dealers soon, probably telling them the best ways to explain this away to those not using theirs for towing. This one runs hotter than my '97 with the same packages, just a 4.6L.
WE NEED LAWYERS, GUY's
John Sport:
For those of you who have not seen any of the previous postings on this subject, there are a significant number of F150s owners that did not receive the upgraded radiator when they bought an F150 with the Class III tow package. They received the standard radiator instead. According to the 2001 source book, 2001 F150s should have a radiator core that is 1.42" thick. According to the 2000 source book online, the 2000 F150s should have a radiator core thickness of 2.2". The standard radiator for both years has a core 1.02" thick.

To check your core thickness look where the fan shroud meets the top of the radiator on the drivers side. I was able to push back the fan shroud with my finger. Look at the center portion of the radiator. If it is about 1.02" thick and you have the tow package, then you have the wrong radiator!!! I have counted at least 20 members so far who have the wrong radiator and I'm sure there are many more.

There is more info in the following threads.

https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/003477.html

https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/003465.html

https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/003242.html

This is the web site that has the 2001 and 2000 for source books. http://www.fordtraining.com/
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no need for a Lawer, just contact your local municipal court and file a small claims action against the dealer, to recover the money you spent for the option, civil cases are won by compilation of evidence, you have several sources to back your side, what will they bring to court, a piece of paper stating, "Ford has the right to change spec's"its a loser for them .

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2001 F-150 XLT S-CAB 4.6 "the full ride"
96 Taurus GL
93 Kenne-Bell Supercharged Mustang
"Injection is nice, but I perfer being blown!"

 

I have a 2001 with a V-6 and towing package. Will I have the same size radiator as the guys with the v-8's? Thanks?

 

Does the V-6 have the same size radiator as the V-8's with the tow package?

 

Harting,
It depends on which trans you have. According to my copy of the source book(ha ha I got one kiss my butt Ford), the 5 speed has the small radiator, 1.02 with trailer towing pkg. The auto has the same.
Sorry


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2000 SuperCab 4x4 XLT
Trailer Towing Pkg.
Off-Road Pkg.
Skid Plates
Red/Gold
Westin Nerf Bars
5.4 The Ole' Slapper
All Pwr Options Ever Invented!!

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My dealer called
they have a f75z-8005-ga radiator waiting for me
goes in tuesday
Good luck to everyone
It only took me 1 1/2 years

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99 XLT SC 4x4 STYLESIDE ORP 5.4,AUTO & 3.73 POSI
MED. TOREADOR RED
EXTANG TONEAU,BED MAT,
K&N FILTER & WOOD DASH KIT



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Thanks for the info. I do have the 5sp. Guess I am stuck with the small one. Thanks again

 

Just emailed my dealer and sent him a copy of all the gripes about this rad problem.
Told him to check with Ford to make sure my srew comes in with the correct rad. Hope it works cause I would hate to be doing this after it comes in.
Mike Kelly

 

MANX...

I need to know which dealership you took yours to... mine is digging in about this, denying it, etc, etc, etc... Please let me know who you talked to.

Thanks.

-Joe-