trouble code p0401
First of all , post your vehicle model year and engine size
would suggest cleaning the Plenum ports. Specially if you have the 4.6L and are around 75,000 miles
The later model years did not have this problem usually...the port was enlarged to a single port about the size of a dime or so to eliminate the carbon build up the earlier design had. It would take a lot of carbon to block it.
Does your idle change? does it want to stall? If so , then the EGR valve is good . If there is no deflection or change in idle speed your EGR valve needs to be replaced.. This tests the valve operation and diaphragm
P0402 Excesive flow will set for the EGR valve itself ...correct...but not always, a bad DPFE can set this code as well....
P0401 Insufficient flow usually DPFE, ports, hoses.....The 4.6 and 4.2's rarely burned the hoses, it 's more of a 5.4 issue. The picture you have Jbrew is for the 4.2 and 4.6's...the 5.4 use one similar to the one in the first photo however they are plastic for the 02 model year.
Last edited by FordTech1; Feb 25, 2008 at 09:33 PM.
Originally Posted by FordTech1
Exactly.
The later model years did not have this problem usually...the port was enlarged to a single port about the size of a dime or so to eliminate the carbon build up the earlier design had. It would take a lot of carbon to block it.
If the port/ports are/is clogged there will be no change.
P0402 Excesive flow will set for the EGR valve itself ...correct...but not always, a bad DPFE can set this code as well....
P0401 Insufficient flow usually DPFE, ports, hoses.....The 4.6 and 4.2's rarely burned the hoses, it 's more of a 5.4 issue. The picture you have Jbrew is for the 4.2 and 4.6's...the 5.4 use one similar to the one in the first photo however they are plastic for the 02 model year.
The later model years did not have this problem usually...the port was enlarged to a single port about the size of a dime or so to eliminate the carbon build up the earlier design had. It would take a lot of carbon to block it.
If the port/ports are/is clogged there will be no change.
P0402 Excesive flow will set for the EGR valve itself ...correct...but not always, a bad DPFE can set this code as well....
P0401 Insufficient flow usually DPFE, ports, hoses.....The 4.6 and 4.2's rarely burned the hoses, it 's more of a 5.4 issue. The picture you have Jbrew is for the 4.2 and 4.6's...the 5.4 use one similar to the one in the first photo however they are plastic for the 02 model year.
A bad DPFE is most likely what he has. Cleaning the Plenum ports first , as it could be the problem is better than just throwing parts at it AND it's good for the vehicle as well.
I have already posted there are TWO plastic DPFE's used . The OP did not post model year or engine size. I covered just about everything which you have failed to do.
You need to get a life and stop trying to pick my posts apart , it isn't working for you. Your not helping and probably confusing the OP for no good reason, other than striving to be a now it all = a$$.
There is nothing inaccurate about what I have posted . I suggest you try another site/forum, it would be to your advantage that you learn to be more considerate before doing so.
WTF dude I have done no such thing.
Have you ever heard of a PM?
Telling the guy to pull vac on the EGR and to replace it if it does not change the idle speed is inaccurate. Maybe it was your post that was misleading or confusing if not read correctly???? You cannot make assumptions on codes alone without proper diag...
Who gives a crap about who is more correct other than your ego...That's what PM's are for....Keep that petty crap off the board....I'd be glad to chat
Have you ever heard of a PM?
Telling the guy to pull vac on the EGR and to replace it if it does not change the idle speed is inaccurate. Maybe it was your post that was misleading or confusing if not read correctly???? You cannot make assumptions on codes alone without proper diag...
Who gives a crap about who is more correct other than your ego...That's what PM's are for....Keep that petty crap off the board....I'd be glad to chat
Originally Posted by FordTech1
WTF dude I have done no such thing.
Have you ever heard of a PM?
Telling the guy to pull vac on the EGR and to replace it if it does not change the idle speed is inaccurate. Maybe it was your post that was misleading or confusing if not read correctly???? You cannot make assumptions on codes alone without proper diag...
Who gives a crap about who is more correct other than your ego...That's what PM's are for....Keep that petty crap off the board....I'd be glad to chat
Have you ever heard of a PM?
Telling the guy to pull vac on the EGR and to replace it if it does not change the idle speed is inaccurate. Maybe it was your post that was misleading or confusing if not read correctly???? You cannot make assumptions on codes alone without proper diag...
Who gives a crap about who is more correct other than your ego...That's what PM's are for....Keep that petty crap off the board....I'd be glad to chat
Once again , you are incorrect . It might help to know what your talking about before you post. I'm not going to school you, your SUPPOSE to be a Tech
So you ae telling me if the EGR port are plugged shut you will get a response out of the EGR valve ???...A response to the motor on the feed side from the EGR to the intake???....you know ports we have been talking about????? Sorry guy......EGR has two sides....intake side and exhaust side....if the intake side is plugged it will not feed to the motor which in turn will not change the idle etc....Keep the personal crap to the PM's Jbrew...we can discuss credentials , who has bigger nads, time day, weather, whatever you like....keep it technical on the board....
Originally Posted by FordTech1
So you ae telling me if the EGR port are plugged shut you will get a response out of the EGR valve ???...A response to the motor on the feed side from the EGR to the intake???....you know ports we have been talking about????? Sorry guy......EGR has two sides....intake side and exhaust side....if the intake side is plugged it will not feed to the motor which in turn will not change the idle etc....Keep the personal crap to the PM's Jbrew...we can discuss credentials , who has bigger nads, time day, weather, whatever you like....keep it technical on the board....
What The Hell? I didn't say nothing about testing the Valve for port problems
Mann, you are some kind of idiot. I instructed that AFTER he cleaned the plenum ports. Get your sh^t straight! The test I outlined was for valve operation and diaphragm testing after the port has been cleared/cleaned. Which then as said - is probably something he didn't have an issue with . Poppet valve/diaphragm failure is usually revealed after a PO402 has been set. Yea , you are sorry sac - you might want to read a little slower and then tell me what credentials can possibly override the facts


I can't help that you can't read correctly or don't understand a simple process and what the hell does "Nads" or your "PMS" have to do with anything- you frickin weirdo
Last edited by jbrew; Feb 25, 2008 at 11:16 PM.
What The Hell? I didn't say nothing about testing the Valve for port problems
Mann, you are some kind of idiot
I instructed that AFTER he cleaned the plenum ports.
Yea , you are sorry sac
If you feel like you need to be the most correct person on here then by all means have at it...what do I know right?
I don't have a problem correcting inaccurate info if needed. If you aren't clear about something (my post) then ask thru a PM or here, it doesn't matter to me, except, it wasn't initiated that way now was it...
What's ego on the Internet ? That's overrating things a bit or just another assumption - I've been wrong before and admitted when I am. You misunderstood and went into a correcting/dictating mode and I didn't appreciate it. Plain and Simple.
What's ego on the Internet ? That's overrating things a bit or just another assumption - I've been wrong before and admitted when I am. You misunderstood and went into a correcting/dictating mode and I didn't appreciate it. Plain and Simple.
Whatever...
I've seen how you reply when you think you are more correct than someone else...you're so keen on just the "facts" well thats all I posted in addition to your post, nothing more, nothing less...don't make it into something it is not.
Remember the 4.2 coilpack thread, telling Joshmac4.6 he was an idiot about the coils being paired????? Geez...freaking relax...seems to be a trend with you
I suggested you try the PM a long time back in this thread but you just had to keep ranting along about your superior technical advice and how I don't know what I am talking about....I'm done with this...take a chill pill and keep the posts on subject.
I've seen how you reply when you think you are more correct than someone else...you're so keen on just the "facts" well thats all I posted in addition to your post, nothing more, nothing less...don't make it into something it is not.
Remember the 4.2 coilpack thread, telling Joshmac4.6 he was an idiot about the coils being paired????? Geez...freaking relax...seems to be a trend with you
I suggested you try the PM a long time back in this thread but you just had to keep ranting along about your superior technical advice and how I don't know what I am talking about....I'm done with this...take a chill pill and keep the posts on subject.
Last edited by FordTech1; Feb 26, 2008 at 08:15 AM.
Originally Posted by FordTech1
Whatever...
I've seen how you reply when you think you are more correct than someone else...you're so keen on just the "facts" well thats all I posted in addition to your post, nothing more, nothing less...don't make it into something it is not.
Remember the 4.2 coilpack thread, telling Joshmac4.6 he was an idiot about the coils being paired????? Geez...freaking relax...seems to be a trend with you
I suggested you try the PM a long time back in this thread but you just had to keep ranting along about your superior technical advice and how I don't know what I am talking about....I'm done with this...take a chill pill and keep the posts on subject.
I've seen how you reply when you think you are more correct than someone else...you're so keen on just the "facts" well thats all I posted in addition to your post, nothing more, nothing less...don't make it into something it is not.
Remember the 4.2 coilpack thread, telling Joshmac4.6 he was an idiot about the coils being paired????? Geez...freaking relax...seems to be a trend with you
I suggested you try the PM a long time back in this thread but you just had to keep ranting along about your superior technical advice and how I don't know what I am talking about....I'm done with this...take a chill pill and keep the posts on subject.
Yea , you are the two . You guys have to related . You guys join this site thinking your all that trying to correct everyone . Your a couple A-holes - both of yuh. You can choke on your "chill pill" and don't forget share it with your B-buddy.
Ha!! I see you sent your pal over to the "Other Powertrain" forum on this site. He or she's doing a good job over their cutting down Jordon not Mike - Who's another long time member of this site, who also has helped many in the past. Don't think for a minute you freaks are going un-noticed!!!
You guys, you two are pair all right .. Keep it up you piece of sh^t, your making as many friends as your buddy. I new you guys were related - it's transparent
Last edited by jbrew; Feb 26, 2008 at 08:48 AM.
Whats your deal?
Can't keep up so you have to resort to childish namecalling ? That's about your speed. Yeah you are a big help around here alright until someone contradicts you all mighty one......Would you like an updated DVD from Ford so you can keep up, I'd be more than glad to send you one......
What kind of insane rambling on is that?????I don't even know what you are talking about.
Like I said you can't keep it technical so you do what comes naturally to you it seems....who's the real jerk off here???? You are the one who needs to be taken back a notch...............
Can't keep up so you have to resort to childish namecalling ? That's about your speed. Yeah you are a big help around here alright until someone contradicts you all mighty one......Would you like an updated DVD from Ford so you can keep up, I'd be more than glad to send you one......
Ha!! I see you sent your pal over to the "Other Powertrain" forum on this site. He or she's doing a good job over their cutting down Jordon not Mike - Who's another long time member of this site, who also has helped many in the past. Don't think for a minute you freaks are going un-noticed
Like I said you can't keep it technical so you do what comes naturally to you it seems....who's the real jerk off here???? You are the one who needs to be taken back a notch...............


