2000 F150 - Fuel Pump Problem: Help Me! Lol
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2000 F150 - Fuel Pump Problem: Help Me! Lol
I have a 2000 F-150, 5.4, 2wd. It sits dead in my driveway because I am unable to start the darn thing. It all started a few weeks ago...it was strange because the truck started to give me troubles when starting it. I could eventually get it started after turning off the key a few times, then starting it up. Someone told me that a fresh battery is required for the fuel injectors to operate correctly. Therefore, I broke down and bought a nice battery charger and made sure my battery was at full strength before starting it.
I put the key in, turned the key to on, heard the fuel rail make a thump, then tried to start the truck.
It just kept turning and turning with no start.
I need to know something...the only sound that I hear before cranking up my truck is the fuel rail making the thump. Am I supposed to hear the fuel pump in the tank prime? If so, I am not hearing it.
If the fuel pump is bad, will the fuel rail still make this thumping noise?
I am dreading to call a wrecker and take it to Ford.
Like I said before, I have...
1) Changed the fuel filter
2) Changed the cam sensor
3) Changed a few vacuum lines that looked really bad
4) Changed out the fuel pump relay
5) Checked all the fuses
6) Made sure the shut off button was not activated
What am I doing wrong? Is there a timing issue involved?
Help! (Please)
Thanks for your inputs.
I put the key in, turned the key to on, heard the fuel rail make a thump, then tried to start the truck.
It just kept turning and turning with no start.
I need to know something...the only sound that I hear before cranking up my truck is the fuel rail making the thump. Am I supposed to hear the fuel pump in the tank prime? If so, I am not hearing it.
If the fuel pump is bad, will the fuel rail still make this thumping noise?
I am dreading to call a wrecker and take it to Ford.
Like I said before, I have...
1) Changed the fuel filter
2) Changed the cam sensor
3) Changed a few vacuum lines that looked really bad
4) Changed out the fuel pump relay
5) Checked all the fuses
6) Made sure the shut off button was not activated
What am I doing wrong? Is there a timing issue involved?
Help! (Please)
Thanks for your inputs.
Last edited by measato; 01-01-2008 at 05:20 PM.
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#4
Respectfully, what your doing wrong is guessing.
Either no fuel or no spark.
Find out which one and procees down that path.
Guessing can often times introduce a second problem and cause great confusion.
Have you looked for any pending codes that could give a clue?
Could be as simple as the crank position sensor plug came off.
Either no fuel or no spark.
Find out which one and procees down that path.
Guessing can often times introduce a second problem and cause great confusion.
Have you looked for any pending codes that could give a clue?
Could be as simple as the crank position sensor plug came off.
#5
Crank Position Sensor
I have rented a code reader and did not get any codes returned. The computer checked ok.
As for the pressure check, I have been reluctant to do it because it will cost me almost $40.00 to get a test kit, which I will only use once...that's almost a gas tank fillup!
As for the crank position sensor...I will check that out...where is it located on my F-150? (2000). You guys are awesome. I appreciate all your help.
Once again, I asked earlier, am I supposed to be able to hear the fuel pump prime? If so, I am not.
The sound that comes from the fuel rail...the 'thump' when I turn on the key, is that normal?
Any help would be appreciated.
As for the pressure check, I have been reluctant to do it because it will cost me almost $40.00 to get a test kit, which I will only use once...that's almost a gas tank fillup!
As for the crank position sensor...I will check that out...where is it located on my F-150? (2000). You guys are awesome. I appreciate all your help.
Once again, I asked earlier, am I supposed to be able to hear the fuel pump prime? If so, I am not.
The sound that comes from the fuel rail...the 'thump' when I turn on the key, is that normal?
Any help would be appreciated.
#7
I'm not trying to give you a hard time but to get you to realize a different outlook on owning a truck and what it takes to upkeep one.
You spent more than $40 guessing on at least 3 parts and now you won't invest in a tool to try finding the real problem! Check to see if there is a fuel rail port before you by a gauge set.
After awhile the total exceeds the cost of having a shop find the fault.
Often you can hear the pump run a second to shut-off when the key is turned to thr RUN position. That's normal. Often times some can't hear it in a full tank or some have poor hearing.
The crank sensor is at about the 7 o'clock position behind the front crank damper.
If things are that tight, you should consider a small car in lue of a truck that is getting older and will need more maintaince as time goes by.
Good luck.
You spent more than $40 guessing on at least 3 parts and now you won't invest in a tool to try finding the real problem! Check to see if there is a fuel rail port before you by a gauge set.
After awhile the total exceeds the cost of having a shop find the fault.
Often you can hear the pump run a second to shut-off when the key is turned to thr RUN position. That's normal. Often times some can't hear it in a full tank or some have poor hearing.
The crank sensor is at about the 7 o'clock position behind the front crank damper.
If things are that tight, you should consider a small car in lue of a truck that is getting older and will need more maintaince as time goes by.
Good luck.
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Respectfully Agree
I totally agree with you. This is the 1st major repair that I have had to do on my truck since I bought it in 2000. I am reluctant on buying the pressure test kit because the school that I teach at has a state of the art testing facility and they can diagnosis it for me.
I am off for the winter, therefore I had time to kill, and wanted to see if I could dilly dally around and fix it myself. I am realizing that sometimes it doesn't pay to do the work yourself...but...when I read other horror stories of $1,200 to fix a fuel pump issue at the Ford Dealer, this has caused me to do something about it instead of waiting around for my school to get to it.
Thanks for your wisdom though, I already thought about it though.
If I did buy a fuel pressure kit, what reading should I get when I turn the key to the on position without starting it? I am asking this cause I cant get my truck started anyway.
Will the pressure go up when I attempt to start the truck?
If I remove the little black cap and depress the nipple, should the gas shoot out quickly?
I have removed the black cap and pushed down on the nipple, only to see it just dribble out a little bit.
I am off for the winter, therefore I had time to kill, and wanted to see if I could dilly dally around and fix it myself. I am realizing that sometimes it doesn't pay to do the work yourself...but...when I read other horror stories of $1,200 to fix a fuel pump issue at the Ford Dealer, this has caused me to do something about it instead of waiting around for my school to get to it.
Thanks for your wisdom though, I already thought about it though.
If I did buy a fuel pressure kit, what reading should I get when I turn the key to the on position without starting it? I am asking this cause I cant get my truck started anyway.
Will the pressure go up when I attempt to start the truck?
If I remove the little black cap and depress the nipple, should the gas shoot out quickly?
I have removed the black cap and pushed down on the nipple, only to see it just dribble out a little bit.
#11
Put the gauge on tight, cycle the ignition to run a few times and check the pressure.
It should be up full and hold at least 10 minutes at close to 40 psi +/- a pound or two.
Check for spark so you know what you have.
An easy way is using a timing light with a clamp-on end.
Clamp around a coil cable. While someone cranks the motor the light should flash.
Or put a plug in the boot and ground the shell to make a visual check.
It should be up full and hold at least 10 minutes at close to 40 psi +/- a pound or two.
Check for spark so you know what you have.
An easy way is using a timing light with a clamp-on end.
Clamp around a coil cable. While someone cranks the motor the light should flash.
Or put a plug in the boot and ground the shell to make a visual check.
#12
Did you figure out the thumping?
I have rented a code reader and did not get any codes returned. The computer checked ok.
As for the pressure check, I have been reluctant to do it because it will cost me almost $40.00 to get a test kit, which I will only use once...that's almost a gas tank fillup!
As for the crank position sensor...I will check that out...where is it located on my F-150? (2000). You guys are awesome. I appreciate all your help.
Once again, I asked earlier, am I supposed to be able to hear the fuel pump prime? If so, I am not.
The sound that comes from the fuel rail...the 'thump' when I turn on the key, is that normal?
Any help would be appreciated.
As for the pressure check, I have been reluctant to do it because it will cost me almost $40.00 to get a test kit, which I will only use once...that's almost a gas tank fillup!
As for the crank position sensor...I will check that out...where is it located on my F-150? (2000). You guys are awesome. I appreciate all your help.
Once again, I asked earlier, am I supposed to be able to hear the fuel pump prime? If so, I am not.
The sound that comes from the fuel rail...the 'thump' when I turn on the key, is that normal?
Any help would be appreciated.
#13
Well you have a decision to make.
Either count on getting lucky or do some testing to find the issue.
Should be able to hear the pump run about 1 second at key on, then shut off.
This is normal. You still would not know anythng about fuel pressure.
At this point don't worry about using a tank of gas if the motor won't start.
Good luck.
Either count on getting lucky or do some testing to find the issue.
Should be able to hear the pump run about 1 second at key on, then shut off.
This is normal. You still would not know anythng about fuel pressure.
At this point don't worry about using a tank of gas if the motor won't start.
Good luck.
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