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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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I would be very interested to read that, just search under post from the name you referenced above? Was the post started by him or just one he participated in?
Hi - usually participated, in... I'm in a couple too they can go back a few years as well, this is a recurring topic.

Good readin'
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Hi - usually participated, in... I'm in a couple too they can go back a few years as well, this is a recurring topic.

Good readin'
Good reading... yes, lots of reading.. YES!!! I will continue to read, but just to get to the conclusion. Was any additive type product found to be of any benefit? I believe BG44 has one as does lucas.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Good reading... yes, lots of reading.. YES!!! I will continue to read, but just to get to the conclusion. Was any additive type product found to be of any benefit? I believe BG44 has one as does lucas.
Told ya!

Techron...
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Told ya!

Techron...
I did read that your bud said the product was 80% oil and 20 % alcohol. I checked the seafoam website and that is not correct. I wonder if he had bad information of if seafoam has changed its solution. I run Techron, but only through my fuel tank, what can I do to kill the carbon?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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I did read that your bud said the product was 80% oil and 20 % alcohol. I checked the seafoam website and that is not correct. I wonder if he had bad information of if seafoam has changed its solution. I run Techron, but only through my fuel tank, what can I do to kill the carbon?
Well - walnut shells - just ask Jbrew

Not sure what else, via a solution-in-a-bottle, except a lot of folks swear by running only high quality name-brand fuels....

Did you check the MSDS for Seafoam? It's kinda ambiguous...

Labnerd may have independently analyzed it - we'd need him to confirm of course.

At least we know it's the pale oil that's causing all the smoke
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Well - walnut shells - just ask Jbrew

Not sure what else, via a solution-in-a-bottle, except a lot of folks swear by running only high quality name-brand fuels....

Did you check the MSDS for Seafoam? It's kinda ambiguous...

Labnerd may have independently analyzed it - we'd need him to confirm of course.

At least we know it's the pale oil that's causing all the smoke
Yeah I did check the MSDS and I agree with you

I agree the pale oil is causing the smoke, but why do vehicles of higher mileage smoke more? Is it that come carbon is burned off, but that seafoam is not effective at removing the majority of it?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Seafoam is one of the best products out there, i sell it on a daily basis and have never had a complaint, my buddy uses it in his rx7 and never had a problem. i have to say anyone who says sea foam doesnt do the job really doesnt know what they are talking about, either that or they had to large of a problem to begin with.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Well - walnut shells - just ask Jbrew

Yea , walnut shells does more than Seafoam will ever do.

"Trick of the Trade"

Heres the procedure -

Pull the lower intake, pull your exhaust manifolds. Crush up some walnut shells and use them in your sandblaster to clean up the valves. Best time to do when replacing the gaskets..

Won't hurt the motor one bit and does a hell of a job - clean out the blaster good before attempting, not one grain of sand should be present
 

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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Well screw Seafoam why not just substitute Techron in through the vac line instead of seafoam?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Yea , walnut shells does more than Seafoam will ever do.

"Trick of the Trade"

Heres the procedure -

Pull the lower intake, pull your exhaust manifolds. Crush up some walnut shells and use them in your sandblaster to clean up the valves. Best time to do when replacing the gaskets..

Won't hurt the motor one bit and does a hell of a job - clean out the blaster good before attempting, not one grain of sand should be present
While Im sure that does a fantastic job ripping into a motor still well under factory warranty doesnt seem like the best idea to me. Also I have none of the tools needed to do this walnut blasting. Guess I will just let the carbon build up....
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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While Im sure that does a fantastic job ripping into a motor still well under factory warranty doesnt seem like the best idea to me. Also I have none of the tools needed to do this walnut blasting. Guess I will just let the carbon build up....
Not much in there to clean in the 06 - but I wouldn't run that snake oil "Sea Foam " thru anything .. Weakens your seals and it's hell on the 0-Rings big time!! you'll get the premature leaks - just wait u-guys - it's comin.

Your better off asking about the effects of Sea Foam at the dealerships and get the upper GI cleaning done thru Ford - Safer that way..

I beleive it's called the Motorvac Cleaning Service..

All you can do is tell them MGD - They prolly won't listen tho...To many post the wrong info and don't come back and report the after effects because they have know idea....
 

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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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I haven't looked at Seafoam in awhile as I wouldn't ever consider using it but here it is from Seafoam:
http://www.seafoamsales.com/pdf/MSDS_SFTT_US.pdf

Looks like they added some naptha. FWIW, naptha will burn considerably hotter than gasoline. IPA= Isopropyl alcohol, just like the stuff from the drugstore. You can read the generalized percentages. Frankly, while I would never use this, transmission fluid would have better cleaning effects than this. At least it has some cleaning agents in it. If you want a cleaner in a bottle, use Ford approved Techron or BG-44. BG-44 will clean the system but is no cheap date. Around here figure about $25.00 a can. It might be something to consider on an engine at 100,000 miles for a routine clean up but I wouldn't suggest a steady diet of any of it.
The smoke that some of you see is the pale oil burning off. Carbon does not smoke when it is removed from the combustion chamber. I would also suggest caution when letting the intake line suck this brew in the engine. Yours would not be the first engine to suffer from cracked pistons or hydrolock. I rebuilt a friends sons Mustang last year from a steady diet of Seafoam. Not one piston was useable and all were cracked. I think he finally got the message. As with any additives, use at your own risk.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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I haven't looked at Seafoam in awhile as I wouldn't ever consider using it but here it is from Seafoam:
http://www.seafoamsales.com/pdf/MSDS_SFTT_US.pdf

Looks like they added some naptha. FWIW, naptha will burn considerably hotter than gasoline. IPA= Isopropyl alcohol, just like the stuff from the drugstore. You can read the generalized percentages. Frankly, while I would never use this, transmission fluid would have better cleaning effects than this. At least it has some cleaning agents in it. If you want a cleaner in a bottle, use Ford approved Techron or BG-44. BG-44 will clean the system but is no cheap date. Around here figure about $25.00 a can. It might be something to consider on an engine at 100,000 miles for a routine clean up but I wouldn't suggest a steady diet of any of it.
The smoke that some of you see is the pale oil burning off. Carbon does not smoke when it is removed from the combustion chamber. I would also suggest caution when letting the intake line suck this brew in the engine. Yours would not be the first engine to suffer from cracked pistons or hydrolock. I rebuilt a friends sons Mustang last year from a steady diet of Seafoam. Not one piston was useable and all were cracked. I think he finally got the message. As with any additives, use at your own risk.

Thank you for the great info. I have been preaching the benefits of seafoam for years now, guess even a old dog that just listens can learn a thing or two. When you say BG would work, how do you reccomend using it? When I used seafoam I ran the engine around 2grand and let it sip 1/2 of the can. I never submerged the brake booster line in it as I was worried about hydrolocking. Would using what I call the "tornado" effect of sucking up the BG cause damage as was mentione in the mustang above?
 

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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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WOW!! , that's just knutts

Send out the stupidity patrol to reclaim your motor - you don't deserve it !!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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[QUOTE=MGDfan]Well, people still smoke, and you can still buy Spam. Two things conclusively proven to kill ya.
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WHAT!?!?!?! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT SPAM CAN KILL YOU???
 
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