Lost Confidence In Ecoboost
Cause we were talking about new trucks when he was looking around and i let him take my truck for a few hours.. He came back and really liked it.. Just wanted the v8 sound. He knows ive had great luck with all my fords so decided to try the f150.. Guess he just got a lemon.
I'd be really PO if I had a new vehicle making such sounds. Or it had other problems.
My experience, I had two GM in a row that were lemons. And Ford having issues as well. I think you make too many excuses for Detroit built vehicles. If you paid a lot of money for a Swiss built watch and it was not functioning properly you'd take it back demanding a refund. And so it should be with vehicles. There is absolutely no reason that with proper design and quality control that a vehicle should not last the expected under lemon law, 120K miles, doing routine maintenance and normal use.
My experience, I had two GM in a row that were lemons. And Ford having issues as well. I think you make too many excuses for Detroit built vehicles. If you paid a lot of money for a Swiss built watch and it was not functioning properly you'd take it back demanding a refund. And so it should be with vehicles. There is absolutely no reason that with proper design and quality control that a vehicle should not last the expected under lemon law, 120K miles, doing routine maintenance and normal use.
I'd be really PO if I had a new vehicle making such sounds. Or it had other problems.
My experience, I had two GM in a row that were lemons. And Ford having issues as well. I think you make too many excuses for Detroit built vehicles. If you paid a lot of money for a Swiss built watch and it was not functioning properly you'd take it back demanding a refund. And so it should be with vehicles. There is absolutely no reason that with proper design and quality control that a vehicle should not last the expected under lemon law, 120K miles, doing routine maintenance and normal use.
My experience, I had two GM in a row that were lemons. And Ford having issues as well. I think you make too many excuses for Detroit built vehicles. If you paid a lot of money for a Swiss built watch and it was not functioning properly you'd take it back demanding a refund. And so it should be with vehicles. There is absolutely no reason that with proper design and quality control that a vehicle should not last the expected under lemon law, 120K miles, doing routine maintenance and normal use.
That's a big 10-4!
I'd be really PO if I had a new vehicle making such sounds. Or it had other problems.
My experience, I had two GM in a row that were lemons. And Ford having issues as well. I think you make too many excuses for Detroit built vehicles. If you paid a lot of money for a Swiss built watch and it was not functioning properly you'd take it back demanding a refund. And so it should be with vehicles. There is absolutely no reason that with proper design and quality control that a vehicle should not last the expected under lemon law, 120K miles, doing routine maintenance and normal use.
My experience, I had two GM in a row that were lemons. And Ford having issues as well. I think you make too many excuses for Detroit built vehicles. If you paid a lot of money for a Swiss built watch and it was not functioning properly you'd take it back demanding a refund. And so it should be with vehicles. There is absolutely no reason that with proper design and quality control that a vehicle should not last the expected under lemon law, 120K miles, doing routine maintenance and normal use.
....And the vast majority of them do. Which is pretty amazing considering how fa-reaking many of these things get pooped outa the factories every hour. That is a testament to the worthiness of the intended design, overall. In my view.
Yer preachin' to the choir, bud. Nothing on this earth is perfect - especially those things created by man. Not even those things created by the Imaginary Friend. And the underpaid drones who toss these things together in between coffee & smoke breaks and the alleged QA 'inspectors' who call it good. And the after-sales support is still as atrocious as it has always been.
To coin a military phrase, "No design survives first contact with the Unions"

Compound this with the fact that a forum is, basically a community of complainers and that the mod-happy end-user is just as culpable, with his/her/it's frenzy to make 'improvements'. When, in point of fact, the opposite usually occurs, because they mostly have NF Clue of what they are doing or of the attendant consequences.
All they know is how to complain... and how to deny responsibility for thier actions when things inevitably go south. .... well suck it up.

Cheers
Last edited by MGDfan; Nov 5, 2013 at 09:33 AM.
Please, PLease, PLEASE, abide by yer own counsel:
Originally Posted by KMART
"... literal versus intent..."
We have a P&R forum and AFAIK, we ain't in it. So Normally, I'd ask you to check the crap at the door.
However, since you already excreted from that particular sphincter, and given I can't control what-all is rattlin' around in the Texas-sized gourd of yers... and, also given that all o' us Canucks be irreverent moose-humpin' bastiges what shops, farts, drinks and fornycates on the sabbath..... I'll answer yer Q:

Cheers

M.G.Darjeeling
"Divine intervention is neither divine, nor interventionist; it is, in point of fact a non sequitur" - Bubba from Fartmaster Engineerin'
I was only gonna ask why you bothered to capitalize Imaginary Friend 
I believe in live and let live, no preaching. But you now automatically assume I'm out to get ya, so you write big paragraphs defending yourself

I believe in live and let live, no preaching. But you now automatically assume I'm out to get ya, so you write big paragraphs defending yourself
Exactly Right
Even if it burns 2 quarts in 5k, that's still well within limits. I worry about engines that DON'T burn some oil, that means the oil may not be getting everywhere it needs to! You kids don't know what oil burning is, when I was in the business many years ago we thought only a quart in 2k was doing REAL well.
I am not sure what a normal oil burn on a 5.0, 3.5, 3.7 or 6.2 is, but that seems worth investigating.




