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Originally Posted by tj03f150
okay,
i believe you..
but i dont beleive its as fast as you think it is.
not trying to be a ****.. just something wasnt making sense to me.
heres all the timeslips and dyno sheets etc of these f250's 350's etc
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford--F350-Drag-Racing.html
but you still gotta give me half a track length
i believe you..
but i dont beleive its as fast as you think it is.
not trying to be a ****.. just something wasnt making sense to me.
heres all the timeslips and dyno sheets etc of these f250's 350's etc
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford--F350-Drag-Racing.html
but you still gotta give me half a track length
Originally Posted by 4.2L_Guy
it takes them that long to move cross the intersection casue they have 18 gears to pick form ware u only have 4 in an auto... and it takes a while for that big of a turbo to spool!!!
Originally Posted by 4.2L_Guy
take yours out and they will be what at the most 2 inches in diameter...
3.81 inch bore in a 4.2L
Originally Posted by 4.2L_Guy
now a pickups pistons would be smaller like 3 to 3.5 inches in diameter
there is a huge difrence between gas and diesel... so huge i cant explain it... if u want to no more about diesel go to the site i told u... they will fix you up... but im sure you dnt belive one word that is comin out of my mouth... but thats ok... one day you will learn about diesel's and y almost all things even cars are going diesel now days.
1993-94 Ford 7.3L IDI Turbo V8
The ’93-94 7.3L IDI turbo is one of Ford dieseldom’s forgotten and unsung heroes. It appeared for less than two years and coexisted briefly with the first generation Powerstroke in 1994. It was factory rated for a modest 190 hp and 388 lbs-ft , but sources indicate it was deliberately “tuned down” so as not to out-power the Powerstroke, which was close on the horizon at the time it appeared. With very few mods (pump adjustments, getting rid of the crushed turbo outlet pipe and wastegate adjustments), this engine can make a very easy 225 hp and 440 lbs-ft for almost no money. Internal differences between the turbo and non-turbo 7.3 consist mainly of stouter anodized pistons with larger wrist pins, improved piston rings and Iconel exhaust valves.
Typical SpecificationsDisplacement:
7.3L (444ci)
Bore & Stroke:
4.11x4.18 inches
HP @ RPM:
190 @ 3000
Torque @ RPM:
388 @ 1400
Compression Ratio:
21.5:1
The ’93-94 7.3L IDI turbo is one of Ford dieseldom’s forgotten and unsung heroes. It appeared for less than two years and coexisted briefly with the first generation Powerstroke in 1994. It was factory rated for a modest 190 hp and 388 lbs-ft , but sources indicate it was deliberately “tuned down” so as not to out-power the Powerstroke, which was close on the horizon at the time it appeared. With very few mods (pump adjustments, getting rid of the crushed turbo outlet pipe and wastegate adjustments), this engine can make a very easy 225 hp and 440 lbs-ft for almost no money. Internal differences between the turbo and non-turbo 7.3 consist mainly of stouter anodized pistons with larger wrist pins, improved piston rings and Iconel exhaust valves.
Typical SpecificationsDisplacement:
7.3L (444ci)
Bore & Stroke:
4.11x4.18 inches
HP @ RPM:
190 @ 3000
Torque @ RPM:
388 @ 1400
Compression Ratio:
21.5:1
2003-up 6.0L Powerstroke V8, Generation 3
The 6.0L Powerstroke is the new kid on the Ford diesel block. The bore is almost 3/8-inch reduced (3.74 vs 4.11 inches) and it has a fractionally shorter 4.13-inch stroke. You can see many design hints from the old Powerstroke engine, but with only a handful of carryover parts, you have to call it a new engine rather than an evolution. The block is heavily revised and strengthened.
The biggest news mechanically is the 32 valve head configuration, four valves per cylinder with the injector centered in the cylinder, which greatly enhances breathing ability and combustion efficiency. It uses the same basic type of HEUI injection system, but at a much higher fuel pressure (26,000 vs 21,000 psi). It also features a new variable turbo, called EVRT (Electronic Variable Response Turbocharging). Boost rate is controlled by a unisyn ring, which is a movable trim ring around the compressor blades that controls boost. This is a much more elegant way of adjusting boost to suit engine speed than a wastegated turbo, and offers lower EGTs as well. Essentially, the engine can optimize boost at any rpm range without the restriction of a wastegate. The 6.0L also features “Pilot Injection,” a.k.a. Split Shot injectors, which inject the fuel in a couple of stages during the idle compression stroke rather than all at once. This is said to decrease idle noise and emission. These injectors were introduced at the end of the 7.3L Powerstroke era but weren’t used in all engines.
Typical Specifications
Displacement:
6.0L (363ci)
Bore & Stroke:
3.74x4.13 inches
HP @ RPM:
325 @ 3300
Torque @ RPM:
560 @ 2000
Compression Ratio:
18:1
Injection:
Direct, HEUI
Aspiration:
Turbo, variable geometry
Max EGT:
1250 max/1000 sustained*
Note that EGTs are monitored and limited by the computer.
1983-88 Ford 6.9L and 1988-92 7.3L
The 6.0L Powerstroke is the new kid on the Ford diesel block. The bore is almost 3/8-inch reduced (3.74 vs 4.11 inches) and it has a fractionally shorter 4.13-inch stroke. You can see many design hints from the old Powerstroke engine, but with only a handful of carryover parts, you have to call it a new engine rather than an evolution. The block is heavily revised and strengthened.
The biggest news mechanically is the 32 valve head configuration, four valves per cylinder with the injector centered in the cylinder, which greatly enhances breathing ability and combustion efficiency. It uses the same basic type of HEUI injection system, but at a much higher fuel pressure (26,000 vs 21,000 psi). It also features a new variable turbo, called EVRT (Electronic Variable Response Turbocharging). Boost rate is controlled by a unisyn ring, which is a movable trim ring around the compressor blades that controls boost. This is a much more elegant way of adjusting boost to suit engine speed than a wastegated turbo, and offers lower EGTs as well. Essentially, the engine can optimize boost at any rpm range without the restriction of a wastegate. The 6.0L also features “Pilot Injection,” a.k.a. Split Shot injectors, which inject the fuel in a couple of stages during the idle compression stroke rather than all at once. This is said to decrease idle noise and emission. These injectors were introduced at the end of the 7.3L Powerstroke era but weren’t used in all engines.
Typical Specifications
Displacement:
6.0L (363ci)
Bore & Stroke:
3.74x4.13 inches
HP @ RPM:
325 @ 3300
Torque @ RPM:
560 @ 2000
Compression Ratio:
18:1
Injection:
Direct, HEUI
Aspiration:
Turbo, variable geometry
Max EGT:
1250 max/1000 sustained*
Note that EGTs are monitored and limited by the computer.
1983-88 Ford 6.9L and 1988-92 7.3L
1983-88 Ford 6.9L and 1988-92 7.3L NA V8
Ford’s first entrant into the diesel wars came in 1983 with the 6.9L V8. Developed by Navistar/International, it cranked out 170 hp and 315 lbs-ft and out powered the GMs by a good margin but, in the 4x4 lines, was available only in the F250HD and F-350. It’s a very stout engine that’s capable of about 275 hp with the stock injection pump (a DB-2) and add-on turbocharging. The engine could probably handle over 300 hp with a high capacity pump.
The 6.9L lasted until 1988, when it was replaced by the similar 7.3L. Externally they looked almost identical, but inside, the 7.3L had a larger bore for the increased displacement, larger head bolts and (supposedly) improved valve stem seals. Overall, the early 7.3L isn’t considered quite as reliable as the 6.9L, though the 180 hp and 345 lbs-ft were improvements owners liked. Some spec sheets show the last year of 7.3L NA, 1992, with 185 hp and 360 lbs-ft.
The 7.3L NA probably has about the same power potential as the 6.9L because it’s limited by essentially the same injection pump. Again, it needs an add-on turbo kit to bring it up to good power levels. Bear in mind that, like many older diesels, the 6.9 is more or less designed to use small amounts of oil. My own has, even when it had only a few thousand miles. The new valve stem seals on the 7.3L were designed to solve that but had the unexpected bad side effect of causing early valve guide failure.
Typical Specifications
Displacement:
6.9L (420ci)
7.3L (444ci)
Bore & Stroke:
4.00x4.18 inches
4.11x4.18 inches
HP @ RPM:
170 @ 3300
180 @ 3300
Torque @ RPM:
315 @ 1400
345 @ 1400
Compression Ratio:
21.5:1
Injection:
Indirect, Mechanical,
Stanadyne Rotary DB-2
Aspiration:
Natural
Max EGT:
1250max/950 sustained degrees*
Ford’s first entrant into the diesel wars came in 1983 with the 6.9L V8. Developed by Navistar/International, it cranked out 170 hp and 315 lbs-ft and out powered the GMs by a good margin but, in the 4x4 lines, was available only in the F250HD and F-350. It’s a very stout engine that’s capable of about 275 hp with the stock injection pump (a DB-2) and add-on turbocharging. The engine could probably handle over 300 hp with a high capacity pump.
The 6.9L lasted until 1988, when it was replaced by the similar 7.3L. Externally they looked almost identical, but inside, the 7.3L had a larger bore for the increased displacement, larger head bolts and (supposedly) improved valve stem seals. Overall, the early 7.3L isn’t considered quite as reliable as the 6.9L, though the 180 hp and 345 lbs-ft were improvements owners liked. Some spec sheets show the last year of 7.3L NA, 1992, with 185 hp and 360 lbs-ft.
The 7.3L NA probably has about the same power potential as the 6.9L because it’s limited by essentially the same injection pump. Again, it needs an add-on turbo kit to bring it up to good power levels. Bear in mind that, like many older diesels, the 6.9 is more or less designed to use small amounts of oil. My own has, even when it had only a few thousand miles. The new valve stem seals on the 7.3L were designed to solve that but had the unexpected bad side effect of causing early valve guide failure.
Typical Specifications
Displacement:
6.9L (420ci)
7.3L (444ci)
Bore & Stroke:
4.00x4.18 inches
4.11x4.18 inches
HP @ RPM:
170 @ 3300
180 @ 3300
Torque @ RPM:
315 @ 1400
345 @ 1400
Compression Ratio:
21.5:1
Injection:
Indirect, Mechanical,
Stanadyne Rotary DB-2
Aspiration:
Natural
Max EGT:
1250max/950 sustained degrees*
wow i have learned something i dint know... your right... i will call myself an idiot now. lol but i do know that semi's pistons are alot bigger alot bigger. now im done with diesel on this site.... lets get back to the v6's they are more fun for me to tlk about anyway... becasue i own one... i dont own the powerstroke... i just drive it the most. even more then my pickup.
Originally Posted by dirtyd88
hey tj, do you have any dyno numbers before you did any mods to your truck? when it was bone stock??
be sur eto let us know what urs makes :-D
ok. because i was thinking, not that i dont believe your numbers, but if everyone is saying that these trucks make like around 150 rwhp, then you gain 120 rwhp at 8 psi...thats alot. i think the numbers that these trucks come with from the factory are 202 rwhp, because they say one with a manual has 205....but thats my brain getting me thinking, so dont pay attention to it.
Originally Posted by dirtyd88
. i think the numbers that these trucks come with from the factory are 202 rwhp, because they say one with a manual has 205....but thats my brain getting me thinking, so dont pay attention to it.
Sorry bud. We all wish that the damn companies would advertise RWHP and RWTQ, but I guess we are stuck with BHP.
Originally Posted by dirtyd88
i was just putting out my logic. 125 rwhp is alot at 8 psi.
over 300rwhp!
believe my numbers if u want, ive got a dynosheet and pictures of my setup.


