going from 3.55 to 4.10
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As far as your tire diameter goes, a 255/70R16 is a 30.1" diameter tire (just say 30 even, it makes calculations easier). For a 33" diameter, you are adding 10% to your diameter, 33/30 = 1.1, or 110%. To get things back to even, you'd need to 'up' your gearing by 10%. 1.1 x 3.55 = 3.91, give or take, which is not an available ratio. A 4.10 is 15% 'higher' than a 3.55, so with 33" tires you'd actually end up with more torque/grunt than you started with. I agree with the others, I wouldn't put on 33" without re-gearing, but we all know that they don't do that kind of stuff for free either, so it'll be up to what you can afford. Good luck!
One thing I was very curious about. You mention you have a SuperCrew with a 5-speed?? I thought they were only built with automatics. If you have a stick S'Crew, you have one rare bird. Did you mean a SuperCab? Sorry, I was just very curious. I can't believe no one else has asked this. My '98 4x2 Lariat SC 4.6 is a 5-speed, which is pretty rare in itself. Again, just wondering!!?? Take care!
As far as your tire diameter goes, a 255/70R16 is a 30.1" diameter tire (just say 30 even, it makes calculations easier). For a 33" diameter, you are adding 10% to your diameter, 33/30 = 1.1, or 110%. To get things back to even, you'd need to 'up' your gearing by 10%. 1.1 x 3.55 = 3.91, give or take, which is not an available ratio. A 4.10 is 15% 'higher' than a 3.55, so with 33" tires you'd actually end up with more torque/grunt than you started with. I agree with the others, I wouldn't put on 33" without re-gearing, but we all know that they don't do that kind of stuff for free either, so it'll be up to what you can afford. Good luck!
One thing I was very curious about. You mention you have a SuperCrew with a 5-speed?? I thought they were only built with automatics. If you have a stick S'Crew, you have one rare bird. Did you mean a SuperCab? Sorry, I was just very curious. I can't believe no one else has asked this. My '98 4x2 Lariat SC 4.6 is a 5-speed, which is pretty rare in itself. Again, just wondering!!?? Take care!
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Yeah sorry about that ,, i ment supercab and not supercrew.
So i guess most people think that changing the gear ratio is almost necessary for 33" tires ,,,,,,,,,,,, i just wanted to know cause i've seen many post on this message board with people saying that 33" work great with their stock 3.55 ratio such as
2dollarsteak (nice truck by the way) and says it's almost good as the stock tires
I wouldn't mind going from 3.55 to 4.10 ,, but i don't really care about the torque ,, i'm often on the higway and like to cruise around 70 to 80mph,,,,,,,,,,,with the 4.10 gear ratio ,, i'd be killing my wallet on gas,, wouldn't be like 3 to 8 mpg worse.
i'm not sure i want to loose my top end speed ,,, so i might have to go with smaller tires ,,,,,,,,,,,what about 265" or 285"????
would the gears need to be changed as well
So i guess most people think that changing the gear ratio is almost necessary for 33" tires ,,,,,,,,,,,, i just wanted to know cause i've seen many post on this message board with people saying that 33" work great with their stock 3.55 ratio such as
2dollarsteak (nice truck by the way) and says it's almost good as the stock tires
I wouldn't mind going from 3.55 to 4.10 ,, but i don't really care about the torque ,, i'm often on the higway and like to cruise around 70 to 80mph,,,,,,,,,,,with the 4.10 gear ratio ,, i'd be killing my wallet on gas,, wouldn't be like 3 to 8 mpg worse.
i'm not sure i want to loose my top end speed ,,, so i might have to go with smaller tires ,,,,,,,,,,,what about 265" or 285"????
would the gears need to be changed as well
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I have the 31.5" ORP package (265/70-17) and I switched to 4.10's. My truck runs great now. Huge difference in real world power. Don't let anyone tell you that changing gears isn't worth the money. No noticable difference in the gas mileage.
2dollarsteak - I think you'll change your mind on gears when you get those big tires. If I went to those, I'd be getting 4.56's.
Ian
2dollarsteak - I think you'll change your mind on gears when you get those big tires. If I went to those, I'd be getting 4.56's.
Ian
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So Ian N you've changed your gear ratio and you don't have that much difference in mpg,,,,,,say at 60mph ,,,,,,,how many RPM's is your engine doing?? and what were your rpm's before you changed your gear ratio.
Cause i know the tires will make a little difference ,,,,, but i thaugh the gear ratio would really have an effect on the gas millage.
You gained some torque for sure ,,,,,but what about your top speed ? have you lost alot?
Cause i know the tires will make a little difference ,,,,, but i thaugh the gear ratio would really have an effect on the gas millage.
You gained some torque for sure ,,,,,but what about your top speed ? have you lost alot?
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At 100km/h (I see you are a canuck too) I am turning ~2100rpm with my 31.5" tire package. Before was about 1800. Since the torque peak is at 2400, I am closer to the peak on the highway.
If you take your current (3.55) revs at any speed and multiply by 1.15, you will get the revs with 4.10's. For 4.56, multiple by 1.30.
I have a chip that removes the factory top speed limiter so as far as top speed goes, at redline (assume 5000rpm) that would give me 240 km/h, so I would be limited by aerodynamics, not gearing. There is no way an Expy could do that without a blower.
The highway performance is fantastic with these gears - roll-on power and hill climbing is awesome. I made the change to help in towing my trailer but I am happier all round.
If you take your current (3.55) revs at any speed and multiply by 1.15, you will get the revs with 4.10's. For 4.56, multiple by 1.30.
I have a chip that removes the factory top speed limiter so as far as top speed goes, at redline (assume 5000rpm) that would give me 240 km/h, so I would be limited by aerodynamics, not gearing. There is no way an Expy could do that without a blower.
The highway performance is fantastic with these gears - roll-on power and hill climbing is awesome. I made the change to help in towing my trailer but I am happier all round.
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