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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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Dude this thing is looking amazing.

BTW were you at the monster jam a couple weeks back? I defiantly saw the black superduty there. I don't know how the chick there was climbing in and out of it.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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trimble, have you talked to Zach? (zabeard) He has all kinds of formulas and excel spreadsheets to help in suspension geometry. He used that kind of stuff the 2nd time he SASed his ranger and redid the suspension. He is very helpful and knowledgeable, might be something to look into.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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I got pics

and some more problems

Problem number 1: Tires measure out to 36.5" without air in them some im geussing the biggest they will get is 37.5. The reason this is a problem is that i have 5.13 gears and not sure how that will compute for highway RPMs

Problem number 2: The low pinion D60 is causing some problems. The front drive shaft will be pretty sharp of an angle. To fix this we will be either; Run a CV joint on the front Dshaft, Clock the transfer case, or rotate the diff, or run a devorced t-case, or run dual t-cases.

now im looking for trades for bigger tires. I would like at least a TRUE 40" tire.

The lowest point of the fender (the back part of the fender flare) will be at least 40" high.

heres the pics got more coming monday:



 

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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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im excited to see this trimble.



definitely love your project
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris04v6
im excited to see this trimble.



definitely love your project
thanks man. hopefully it will be done sooner than expected.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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is it sitting at ride height? maybe its just the picture but it looks like the rear end is sitting a lot higher than the front
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 4.2trimble
Problem number 1: Tires measure out to 36.5" without air in them some im geussing the biggest they will get is 37.5. The reason this is a problem is that i have 5.13 gears and not sure how that will compute for highway RPMs

Problem number 2: The low pinion D60 is causing some problems. The front drive shaft will be pretty sharp of an angle. To fix this we will be either; Run a CV joint on the front Dshaft, Clock the transfer case, or rotate the diff, or run a devorced t-case, or run dual t-cases.
Problem one: Ouch ! They were supposed to be 40" tires ?? My ole Ground hawgs measured out to just a tad over 39.5" tall. Sucks man. But the gearing wont be an issue I wouldn't think. Might be a tad high, but the 4.2 will do fine. Adjust your speed, you know how to drive, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just start looking for a good trade, like you said. Or sell them, save up for some other ones. Something.

Problem 2: This really isn't much of a problem. I would talk to the shop, and see about cutting the knuckles, and rotating the dif. See how much extra they are going to charge you for that. It is by far the best bet for your situation. Dual t-cases would be awesome, always recomend them, but I doubt it will give you enough room to be fine. Maybe dual cases plus a cv joint front driveshaft. Or a double cv front DS. STAY away from divorced t-case. Bad news ! Being divorced lets it twist and move with the torque under load. Rips frame mounts off, explodes, twists, binds, etc etc etc. Bad. Samurai's come stock with the divorced t-case, once you start getting more and more seriouse of a build, you begin looking for a dual case, solid mount right away. Mine is still currently divorced, and you should see the bracing and extra mounting I have, and it still gives me trouble (geared extremely low) !! The t-case is a torque multiplier, you want it as solid as can be.

If it were my truck, I would look into clocking the front diff, cut and turn the knuckle, and look into running some kind of dual case setup. The dual cases can come later, if need be. Thats my 2 cents anyways.
 

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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so you do need a cut and turn after all. kind of thought you would since the wheel base on your truck is pretty short for how much lift your going with. cut and turn shouldn't be to much.

have you found any disc for the rear axle yet?

can't remember if you said what wheels your using yet, but have you decided?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 06yz250f
have you found any disc for the rear axle yet?
Looking for a disc conversion ???

BTF has the brakets.

http://bluetorchfab.com/store/produc...products_id=90

rotors from a '73-'87 GM 3/4 ton front axle

and calipers from a '73-'87 1/2 or 3/4 ton front axle

good to go. Easy as pie !
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Im gonna be running 16.5x14" Bart wheels that i painted black. I posted pics a few pages back.

Im really thinking about turning the diff. I dont think he will charge me anything for it.

And I looked into that BTF disc coversion and it wont work. for some reason you cant use it on the Dodge D60 rear end.

I did some calculations and with a MANUAL transmission id be slightly over 3k RPMS @ 65

But @ 65 ill be in OD so i should be less than that.

I dont go 65 all that often so i doubt it will be a problem.

I did however find someone trading a set of 42" TSL's not really what i wanted to run but they will do.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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o ok, i didn't know if you planned on running those or were just showing those to MT.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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sorry man.

how about this one ? doesn't say anything about a dodge.

http://bluetorchfab.com/store/produc...products_id=91



Give them a call. Tell them what you have, what you need. It might not be mass produced, but they might be able to help you out.
 

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedesTech
this one doesn't say anything about a dodge.

http://bluetorchfab.com/store/produc...products_id=91

Give them a call. Tell them what you have, what you need. It might not be mass produced, but they might be able to help you out.
yeah those should work ill have to give them a call.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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if not, let me know. Should be able to find you something !
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jhedges15
is it sitting at ride height? maybe its just the picture but it looks like the rear end is sitting a lot higher than the front
yea the front is about 6" lower than the front. The back is also about at ride heigth. It will be a bit taller than that.

the front will be brought up to be level with the rear, Its just sitting like that for torching purposes.

the truck sitting on the current tires should be around 40" or a tad more off the ground. That will change when i get a TRUE 40" tire or bigger.

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if not, let me know. Should be able to find you something !
Ok man, sounds cool

and did you ever find any exo cages?
 
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