well here is why you are an idoit!

haha just messin with you. thing looks sweet mocked up. still gatherin parts for my no axle to soild axle lol. cant wait to see if finsihed and all coverd in mud!!!

 

thats good to know haha, that stuff doesnt NOT seem off road worthy haha.

i know its not the best for a height issue, but ya ever think of cutting a circle in the frame and sliding a slevel through and welding it in and using your frame as the rear shackle mount?

 

Here yall go..tell me what you think..

 

No actually i didnt, but i know exactly what you are talking about. With the way the from was mounted we had to drop the rear eye down as far as you see it, or id have problems with the steering do to the fact that it would have rotated the axle. That is a really good idea, keeps it tucked in and probably ALOT stronger.

im still not totaly sold on the shackles there needs to be ALOT of "beefing" up to make me like them. I know they can be made PLENTLY strong so im riding with the idea for now.

and BAF150 thats a nice lookin rig.

yeah i cant weight till this thing is rolling down the road.

 

Trimble, these are the shackles that I would buy/build. The ones on it now look kind of thin (maybe not though, can't tell haha) and have no cross piece. Just my .02 cents

https://www.desertrat.com/images/?id=5509

 

thats essentally what mine will look like.

 

Comin along nice trim. You find yourself a 205 yet or what ? Try pirate.

any thought on doing a shackle reversal for the front ? I know its already at the mocj up stage, but it wouldn't take much to change it up a little. Just a thought.

 

trimble, youre alot more familiar with rigs like these..im not, and im lookin for a project truck thats still functional while going through college...those are the only pics i have right now of the truck, but in yalls opinion(which is everybody on this thread), would yall say its worth the price?

and trimble, do those tires look ok to you? Like i said before, not tryin to steal and thunder, theres jus alot of knowledge on this thread that could useful before i decide anything..thanks!

 

nah not really, the back hanger will be flipped. how would the front shackle reversal bennifit, never thought about it.

i really need to find a chain driven t-case so the 205 is kinda out. I want a gear driven but im gonna run 2 chain drive t-cases.

i got to do alittle welding on Chromoly and it was it was just scrap stuff but it was nice.

As for now ill be keeping the 40's if i find a cheap set of 44+ then ill get them or if anyone wants to trade then i might do that. right now ill be towering the 40's.

 

SHackle reversal will make things smoother. Under a normal rig, with the shackle up front as you go over bumps, there isn't much give. The shackle wants to move forward, the same direction your rig wants to go. With the reversal, as you hit bumps the shackle is able to move backwards. Currently doing a frame stretch on my project and debating if I should reverse it or not. There are arguements to both sides, but I think in your case you'd mostly benefit from it. It will also reduce bumpsteer (nice when running 40"+ tires. Also increase approach angle. Something you might not worry too much about, but still nice to have.

Here a much better write up then my words can do:
http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=260281

Read that, gives you a good idea about the mod.

Why do you need a chain driven t-case ? Why not run a NP205/203 doubler setup ? Much longer then any regular t-case, much more stout then a divorced t-case, plus the awesome gear options. Even just an NP205 would be a better bet then the chain driven. Maybe I'm missing something here !

I'll keep an eye on pirate for some monster tires for ya.

 

well i got a divoriced 200 and it needs a pump to get fuild to and a cooler like the transmission.

is there anyway to mount a 205 straight to our 4406? Id really like to do that instead of divorced and diapered.

The only reason i need a chain driven is cause of the simplicity no t-case cooler needed, and no fuild pump.

and that shackle reversal is intresting.

 

Ya, I figured that would be interesting for ya. Getting ready to do that myself, along with stretching the frame some. Should give me 8" or more of wheel base.

I run a divorced (not for long hopefully) gear driven t-case. No cooler lines, no pump, nothing. Gear oil gets put in, and its good to go. Never seen a t-case need its own cooler, and I have seen a lot of t-case setups.



Isn't the 4406 your t-case ?? Why not replace that with a NP205 ? Mate the 205 to the 203 range box, and then the whole deal to your transmission ? Which trans do you have again ???

You could do a NP205/203 doubler. Easy to do, easy to find parts for, and most off roaders know how to work on em, if you need trail repair.

http://medusa.ih8mud.com/NP205/Doubler.html
Just some good facts ^^^


This has a list of which transmissions a NP 203 will bolt up to. Then you mate the 205 behind that for a longer more stout drivetrain.
http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog/doubler.htm


Sounds like this might be your way to go. A doubler is just awesome. Normally can acheive a 1:1 ratio for highway, then down to a 4:1 in stock gearing for low-low. You can regear with aftermarket internals and a new case, and go even lower, but keep an almost 1:1 top end ratio. Sweeeeeeet.

 

yeah the 203/205 was my first thought but i really dont feel like taking my t-case out right now. and yes its the 4406. thats odd that the np200 required that, maybe it was aftermarket custom?

anyway im gonna think about what combo i want to run i know the 203/205 is gonna run me 2x or 3x as much as the 4406+divorced. Plus more down time which is KILLING me. haha

 

I understand man. I get frustrated with downtime also. My Zuk has been down for WAY too long, and continues to sit on jack stands for awhile longer. But, you'll be happy all said and done doing it the way you want vs. settling for anything. I know it sucks.

That being said, I know you mostly like to run mud, so the low gearing might not be a big sell for you. But once you get out on the trails, and into the rocks, you quickly learn you can't ever get "low enough" ! lol You run the auto trans or the manual ?

Plus, can't over look the cool factor ! Having two or three different t-case sticks shooting through the floorboard is always cool, and will always get a conversation started !

Just so we are clear: I am not bashing whatsoever, or saying this way or that way, I am simply trying to offer some of what I know and more ideas for you to consider. Your truck is going to kick some serious *** when it is done either way you go.

I can't imagine doing the divorce + diaper being all that much cheaper. Maybe though. Might want to talk it over with the guys at the shop, see what they think. Maybe you could source both t-cases, and put em together yourself to cut back on costs. Just more ideas !

 

Like mercedes said, the shackle reversal is something I would def. consider. Heard almost nothing but good things about ride quality, etc. They actually sell kits for jeeps and such for a shackle reversal it is so popular.

Down time does suck. Man, I get angry when I have a part sitting in the box waiting to get installed for over a week. Can't imagine the whole truck. Keep you head up, you'll be slopping around in no time.