alignment or not?
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alignment or not?
I got a 96 F150 4x4 and the front wheels at the top go in the wheel isnt straight up and down (bowed out at the bottom) like this when looking at the truck in the front /\ . I was told it was weak springs or shocks anybody got any advice? I read somewhere on some models in that year model there is no camber adjustment unless you have an alignment shop heat and bend something.
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Nah, with the right fully adjustable bushings...you can align nearly anything on a TTB Ford. It was only the old 2wd trucks with the king-pin style I-Beams that required bending to adjust camber.
Your camber is out because your springs have sagged. I'm assuming these are the original springs?? The reason I'm asking is because often, people will install the 2 inch lift springs and then the truck will settle back to stock height......leaving the truck to sit like //____\\ But, either way, you have a couple options. Easiest is just to get some fully adjustable alignment cams and have it aligned by a shop that actually knows what they are doing. Beware, the shop WILL charge extra labor for this. So you're looking at $75 for cams and a little extra on the alignment.
Or, if you wanna have some fun, I can explain to you how to fix your problem with just a few steel washers. Interested??
Your camber is out because your springs have sagged. I'm assuming these are the original springs?? The reason I'm asking is because often, people will install the 2 inch lift springs and then the truck will settle back to stock height......leaving the truck to sit like //____\\ But, either way, you have a couple options. Easiest is just to get some fully adjustable alignment cams and have it aligned by a shop that actually knows what they are doing. Beware, the shop WILL charge extra labor for this. So you're looking at $75 for cams and a little extra on the alignment.
Or, if you wanna have some fun, I can explain to you how to fix your problem with just a few steel washers. Interested??
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lemme guess... its absolutely without a doubt the worst when you back up and then put it into "park".
driving down the road the tires stand straight-up but once you reverse into a parking space or driveway... dang, //____\\!!!!
This happens everytime with my 89 Bronco, wich has a3" body and 4" suspension lift(installed about 1 yr ago, so the springs aren't sagging). have had alignments since lift install and they dont help it at all, steering wheel will be straigh and truck will track down the road straight and tires wear mornaly but when you back up, BAM, they flop in.
Just back in a little extra into yer parking spot and then pull forward about 2', willing to bet this greatly reduces this "bowing"
lemme know
driving down the road the tires stand straight-up but once you reverse into a parking space or driveway... dang, //____\\!!!!
This happens everytime with my 89 Bronco, wich has a3" body and 4" suspension lift(installed about 1 yr ago, so the springs aren't sagging). have had alignments since lift install and they dont help it at all, steering wheel will be straigh and truck will track down the road straight and tires wear mornaly but when you back up, BAM, they flop in.
Just back in a little extra into yer parking spot and then pull forward about 2', willing to bet this greatly reduces this "bowing"
lemme know
Last edited by SouthernStyle05; 10-15-2008 at 10:24 PM.
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Ok, I'm not going to be at home tonight....so I don't have time to write much. But I need you to check one thing....and it's kinda what SouthernStyle hit on. I need you to pull straight forward for about 25 feet and check the angle of the tires. Then reverse it for about 25 feet. Does the angle change? It's NOT supposed to. The reason ShothernStyle's Bronco does it is because his toe is out of spec and/or his springs HAVE sagged. It only takes 1/4 inch sag to throw out toe. And bad toe-in is what causes the angle to change when you pull forward and back up.
So we need to figure out how bad the camber is out. And you can't do that until you get the toe close. Because bad TOE makes the camber WORSE. And bad TOE is caused by bad CAMBER. So what I'm getting at is that the problem compounds itself. The TTB Ford trucks are the most alignment sensitive trucks on the market. However, once you get it set right, it works perfect. And regardless of what you may have heard, it is possible to make it perfect.
So we need to figure out how bad the camber is out. And you can't do that until you get the toe close. Because bad TOE makes the camber WORSE. And bad TOE is caused by bad CAMBER. So what I'm getting at is that the problem compounds itself. The TTB Ford trucks are the most alignment sensitive trucks on the market. However, once you get it set right, it works perfect. And regardless of what you may have heard, it is possible to make it perfect.
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lemme guess... its absolutely without a doubt the worst when you back up and then put it into "park".
driving down the road the tires stand straight-up but once you reverse into a parking space or driveway... dang, //____\\!!!!
This happens everytime with my 89 Bronco, wich has a3" body and 4" suspension lift(installed about 1 yr ago, so the springs aren't sagging). have had alignments since lift install and they dont help it at all, steering wheel will be straigh and truck will track down the road straight and tires wear mornaly but when you back up, BAM, they flop in.
Just back in a little extra into yer parking spot and then pull forward about 2', willing to bet this greatly reduces this "bowing"
lemme know
driving down the road the tires stand straight-up but once you reverse into a parking space or driveway... dang, //____\\!!!!
This happens everytime with my 89 Bronco, wich has a3" body and 4" suspension lift(installed about 1 yr ago, so the springs aren't sagging). have had alignments since lift install and they dont help it at all, steering wheel will be straigh and truck will track down the road straight and tires wear mornaly but when you back up, BAM, they flop in.
Just back in a little extra into yer parking spot and then pull forward about 2', willing to bet this greatly reduces this "bowing"
lemme know
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Ok, THAT is being cause by too much toe-in. It SHOULDN'T do that. You're gonna have to get the toe pretty close.....in order to see how bad the camber really is. What you need to do, is pick a tie-rod end.......and adjust it slightly. Is your steering wheel off-center when you're driving down the road? If so, adjust the side that your wheel is turned towards. Try one full revolution on the adjuster sleeve.....in the direction that spreads the wheels farther apart. Now back the truck up and pull forward a couple times and see what the tires do. Keep adjusting until there is no change from forward to reverse.
Try this and let me know what the angle looks like once you get it adjusted so that there is no change.
Try this and let me know what the angle looks like once you get it adjusted so that there is no change.