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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Did you check to see if you toyota has a dipstick for the tranny? the camry Generation six does not ! There is no way to check the transmission oil without draining it. To get the tranny oil changed, expect an intricate process requiring the use of an intelligent tester to check the oil temp and some other crap just to get your transmission oil changed.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by INFireRedF150
Nothing to think about, got the digital readout in front of me, and adding a whole extra week plus to my commute ain't no mirage either. Smoke what ever you like coz I don't smoke anything. Besides, I did say while moving. If I could actually average 30 to 35 I would be rich quick selling products that got me to that point. Just Throttle feathering.
There is no amount of feathering that will get a 5600+ pound 4x4 5.4 Supercrew to 30 mpg. If you really are getting that much let us all in on your secret. It could save the planet with all the fuel we would save.
What digital readout are you reading? If you coast downhill your trip computer might read 30 but it isn't real.
 

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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm
There is no amount of feathering that will get a 5600+ pound 4x4 5.4 Supercrew to 30 mpg. If you really are getting that much let us all in on your secret. It could save the planet with all the fuel we would save.
What digital readout are you reading? If you coast downhill your trip computer might read 30 but it isn't real.
if you drive downhill at a steep grade all the way to work, you could get 30 its possible. your trip home will be in the single digits though.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Wow, some very intelligent posts here.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm
There is no amount of feathering that will get a 5600+ pound 4x4 5.4 Supercrew to 30 mpg. If you really are getting that much let us all in on your secret. It could save the planet with all the fuel we would save.
What digital readout are you reading? If you coast downhill your trip computer might read 30 but it isn't real.
I missed the post about 30 mpg, there is NO WAY in hell a 5.4L will get 30 mpg. and anyone that thinks those above head mileage displays are close to correct is a fool.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Matlan77
I have ditched the SCREW for a new Japanese 4 Banger sedan! 36-40mpg avgs already.....Good luck and happy pumping (Gas that is).
I've had my share of people looking down at me while I fuel up my F150-in the summer. Come winter, after we get about 3-4 feet of the white stuff, those same people are now looking to me to pull their stupid a$$es out of the snowdrift they tried to drive their AWD gas miser through. You can have your ricebox, I enjoy owning a vehicle that can get me through almost any type of weather, while vehicles like yours are stuck in the driveway.

I would also like to personally thank you for your contributions here, all 113 posts worth. Well more like 108 the last few were made just to flame the other members here. Good riddance buddy, I'll try to miss ya.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Matlan77
I have ditched the SCREW for a new Japanese 4 Banger sedan! 36-40mpg avgs already.....Good luck and happy pumping (Gas that is).

see ya hope you enjoy your "choice"
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Matlan77
... I am a very defensive driver and could see a moran like you in a SCREW coming from a 1/4 mile. Blah blah blah.......
I think you got the last part right... blah, blah, blah ricer, blah, blah you're my hero for buying an eco-friendly car blah, blah our trucks are going to ruin this earth blah blah lets spend tens of thousands of dollars on a miniscule plastic box rather than my pickmeup blah blah have a good life...

oh yeah... don't get hit by a truck "moran"

(p.s. methinks we need a little smily guy that's giving the middle finger... lol)
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Matlan77
Well if you need to compensate for a shortcoming through a vehicle, you need more than an F150....maybe a set of ***** you insecure ape!
I think the poster was being more tongue in cheek than anything. Lighten up a bit. You come on telling everyone to enjoy pumping gas and expect no sarcasm, but a pass?......
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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By the way, I did feel that my kids were safe in my truck, but they are just a safe in my car especially seeing that I am a very defensive driver and could see a moran like you in a SCREW coming from a 1/4 mile.

Well Matt.....I used to think the same thing until an illegal driving ia Pathfinder broadsided me in my Screw F150 with my kids inside. The ONLY thing that saved our lives was the size of our vehicle. Your kids would be bloody and crushed with their innard strewn across the hwy if the same happened in your Jap econobox. It WILL happen to you - thats the odss. I hope for your kids that its doesn't but it WILL. You cannot avoid the unavoidable. Even the BEST drivers get hit by the morons. And let me tell you, that when I am merging onto the hwy in my Screw and you dont want to let me in driving your Japcrap, I will let myself in knowing that my only concern is a potential failure to yield ticket and yours is your life. These are decisions we all make... I have chosen to buy another big vehicle to protect me from the morons and illegals that drive amongst us w/ no care. You may choose to play the odds. I hope your bet wins b/c a loss is horrific.

Good luck to you and your family. Enjoy your new vehicle and watch out for Mr. uninsured illegal.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zx12-iowa
...... Your kids would be bloody and crushed with their innard strewn across the hwy if the same happened in your Jap econobox. It WILL happen to you - thats the odss. .......

You went a bit too far Bud
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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And the intelligent posts continue.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Norm
There is no amount of feathering that will get a 5600+ pound 4x4 5.4 Supercrew to 30 mpg. If you really are getting that much let us all in on your secret. It could save the planet with all the fuel we would save.
What digital readout are you reading? If you coast downhill your trip computer might read 30 but it isn't real.

Get a Scanguage II and load up the variables that you want to monitor while driving. For me, it is the engine load sensor, throttle position sensor, MPH, and MPG. Yes, throttle feathering can help, and yes, you will get passed by metros and the like. You dont take off too slow as that is no good, but dont go WOT either. Get up to speed and let off the gas by watching the TPS.

Not no secret, believe me, I got plenty to keep me busy in my life versus jumping on here and lying thru my keyboard. Granted, my truck is modded and maybe some of what I have seen is due to my TQ being higher than when I was stock, but with no TQ curve I am speculating. If I got excellent low end TQ with my mods then I can get away with letting off the gas just enough to keep moving instead of losing speed. TPS at idle for me is 16%, ideally for maintaining speed I hold it to between 19 and 21 %.

Again, this is while I am at desired speed, not taking off and getting to speed, and I certainly don't average 30 mpg, that would be a pipe dream! I average 17 to 18 mpg doing city driving. And when I am coming to a stop, I throw the shifter into N and my momentary mpg goes up. Remember, this is the readout for fuel consumption that the PCM sends to the instrument cluster for the fuel gauge needle readout. And no joke, if I am up to 50 mph or so, throw it in N, my mpg readout will go over 100 mpg, but that is over maybe a one second window, but if I can coast long enough it does help overall. Even a gas-sipping hybrid gets 0 mpg while stopped. I just do what I can to get my average up.

I am not driving no miracle gas-miler by any means. It is simply changing habits and trying a few things like the shift to N. A manual tranny would be so much easier to use. My in-gear coast will put me to about 50 mpg, but as soon as I raise the TPS that drops. The key is how long can you coast? Preferably in N. Another key is getting to OD reasonably then watch the TPS value to find the min you can be at and keep the speed where you want it. This is all hard to gauge without the PCM data on some kind of display.

I am just offering up what is working for me. I don't sell anything, I make no money for anything. I am doing what I can for owning a full size truck because I came from a line of Jap crap and I don't want to go back. I am not hear to start a flame war at all. I am telling all out there what I am doing for daily commutes and I will keep doing it because going from 12 mpg avg in the city to at least 17 adds 5 days of driving to a tank which means I am at the pump less often and that is what it is all about.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mSaLL150
if you drive downhill at a steep grade all the way to work, you could get 30 its possible. your trip home will be in the single digits though.
yup, need a separate downhill grade going home!

Until Ford puts digital readouts in place of analog needles, no one will know what they can do if they truly lighten up off the gas.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dondiesel444
I missed the post about 30 mpg, there is NO WAY in hell a 5.4L will get 30 mpg. and anyone that thinks those above head mileage displays are close to correct is a fool.

Then the PCM is wrong too! That is where the data is coming from. From Ford sensors!! Is Ford wrong too?
 
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