Is a boost a pump bad?
#31
10-12-2013, 09:44 PM
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I just called Troyer, talked to Michael, I was asking if they could update my tune with a 4lbs under drive pulley (that I already purchased through JDM, I already have the 2.8 upper) and without the BAP
here is how it went:
Me: can you update the tune with the pulley and without the BAP?
Michael: why do you want to remove the BAP?
Me: I'm getting very bad mileage ie. 6-8mpg and dyno places, forums, other tuners are recommending me to remove it
Michael: are these people specialized only in trucks tuning?
Me: probably
Michael: Troyer is the world's best F150 tuner, so he knows what he is doing
Me: *silence* *scratching head, really?*
Me: so why should I keep this BAP, I was told that my roush blower doesn't requires as much fuel
Michael: any blower on a truck require more fuel because they supercharge the truck, so you will absolutely need a BAP in order to make the blower to work properly, without the BAP your fuel pump will be maxed out
Me: several people told me that the pump doesn't get maxed out with a roush blower
Michael: have you checked your spark plugs?
Me: its the roush plugs that came with the kit
Michael: you need to change them, they are not designed with a custom tune
Me: so when I sent you the form and I specified that I had the roush plugs, why is it that you didn't tell me that?
Michael: they can still work, but not as well
Me: so which plugs do I need?
Michael: brisk spark plug silver racing heat range 12, $120 + shipping
Me: I'll get back to you on that, about the tune, could you ask Mike to give me an update?
Michael: Troyer will not update your tune, you need to keep this BAP
Me:ok
Michael: and the under drive pulley will blow up your engine
Me: really!? how?
Michael: we don't recommend installing a lower pulley but we can sell you one if you really want one
Me: I already have it
then I insisted to get a follow up from Mike, Michael told me to call back tomorrow
he also told me that I should try a different gas station, right now my tune is for 92, and I get the costco 92, he told me I should go with Shell or BP
thoughts?
should I keep or disconnect that BAP? JDM sent me a custom tune without the BAP because they said that I don't need a BAP
will the 4lbs pulley blow up my engine?
That sux because I never studied mechanics and I get day and night stories from different places
here is how it went:
Me: can you update the tune with the pulley and without the BAP?
Michael: why do you want to remove the BAP?
Me: I'm getting very bad mileage ie. 6-8mpg and dyno places, forums, other tuners are recommending me to remove it
Michael: are these people specialized only in trucks tuning?
Me: probably
Michael: Troyer is the world's best F150 tuner, so he knows what he is doing
Me: *silence* *scratching head, really?*
Me: so why should I keep this BAP, I was told that my roush blower doesn't requires as much fuel
Michael: any blower on a truck require more fuel because they supercharge the truck, so you will absolutely need a BAP in order to make the blower to work properly, without the BAP your fuel pump will be maxed out
Me: several people told me that the pump doesn't get maxed out with a roush blower
Michael: have you checked your spark plugs?
Me: its the roush plugs that came with the kit
Michael: you need to change them, they are not designed with a custom tune
Me: so when I sent you the form and I specified that I had the roush plugs, why is it that you didn't tell me that?
Michael: they can still work, but not as well
Me: so which plugs do I need?
Michael: brisk spark plug silver racing heat range 12, $120 + shipping
Me: I'll get back to you on that, about the tune, could you ask Mike to give me an update?
Michael: Troyer will not update your tune, you need to keep this BAP
Me:ok
Michael: and the under drive pulley will blow up your engine
Me: really!? how?
Michael: we don't recommend installing a lower pulley but we can sell you one if you really want one
Me: I already have it
then I insisted to get a follow up from Mike, Michael told me to call back tomorrow
he also told me that I should try a different gas station, right now my tune is for 92, and I get the costco 92, he told me I should go with Shell or BP
thoughts?
should I keep or disconnect that BAP? JDM sent me a custom tune without the BAP because they said that I don't need a BAP
will the 4lbs pulley blow up my engine?
That sux because I never studied mechanics and I get day and night stories from different places
#32
10-13-2013, 02:41 AM
Since the OP is questioning the BAP, I went to the manufacture or the Kenne Bell web site and found this info.
Easily installed.
• Fused circuit protection.
• Ideal for Nitrous applications.
• Attractive anodized red aluminum.
• 1000HP with OEM in tank production pumps*.
• Available for single or dual pump applications.
• Easily installed. Uses stock feed wire & fuel lines.
• Eliminates expensive fuel lines and pump upgrades.
• Proven reliability and concept. Tens of thousands sold since 1995.
• Does not affect pump life. Actually increases life of returnless pumps.
• Exclusive built in regulator stabilizes voltage regardless of battery voltage (down to 11V).
• Increases fuel pump flow up to 75% on ANY electric pump(s). 100% for "Competition" 20V.
• Compensates for reduced voltage/pump delivery from voltage drops by lights and accessories.
• Activated by boost switch (supercharged, turbocharged) or vacuum switch (naturally aspirated).
• Adjustable ON DEMAND from driver’s seat. Dual BOOST-A-PUMP™ is not adjustable. Set at max flow.
• Used on all Kenne Bell Supercharger Kits (street & competition) and some of “World’s Most Powerful Production Cars
It does not appear to be something that would cause a problem if you left it on. However, if the tune you are using was designed without it, and it does not need one, I think it would be best to follow the tuners advise and remove it.
Easily installed.
• Fused circuit protection.
• Ideal for Nitrous applications.
• Attractive anodized red aluminum.
• 1000HP with OEM in tank production pumps*.
• Available for single or dual pump applications.
• Easily installed. Uses stock feed wire & fuel lines.
• Eliminates expensive fuel lines and pump upgrades.
• Proven reliability and concept. Tens of thousands sold since 1995.
• Does not affect pump life. Actually increases life of returnless pumps.
• Exclusive built in regulator stabilizes voltage regardless of battery voltage (down to 11V).
• Increases fuel pump flow up to 75% on ANY electric pump(s). 100% for "Competition" 20V.
• Compensates for reduced voltage/pump delivery from voltage drops by lights and accessories.
• Activated by boost switch (supercharged, turbocharged) or vacuum switch (naturally aspirated).
• Adjustable ON DEMAND from driver’s seat. Dual BOOST-A-PUMP™ is not adjustable. Set at max flow.
• Used on all Kenne Bell Supercharger Kits (street & competition) and some of “World’s Most Powerful Production Cars
It does not appear to be something that would cause a problem if you left it on. However, if the tune you are using was designed without it, and it does not need one, I think it would be best to follow the tuners advise and remove it.
#33
10-13-2013, 01:22 PM