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Old May 22, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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i have a 2000 f-150 HD, the non supercharged model, which i think is pretty weak, i want a supercharger, but i have read all the posts and i really want to know oppinons on a good supercharger for my truck. i have looked into procharger, but that was too much $$ so..im looking for somethin i can buget, and if you can list everything i would possibly need for this up grade. thanks
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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This system is made for your truck:

Thinking about doing the Lightning supercharger assembly swap?
Do you have a F150/F250 97- 2004 5.4 SOHC engine? Going to get one? If so, you can bolt on, the most versatile supercharger system available to us.

Sources for lightning engines, supercharger assemblys and related parts:

1. www.madenterprise.com He specifically developed a kit for this swap and sells everything you will need to bolt on to the engine and supercharger assembly. He even has upgrades. He should be able to help you locate an engine and assembly as well. This should be your first and last stop.

2. www.nloc.net This is a lightning website. If you go to the 2nd generation classified section and place an ad, you will get responses for everything and anything you need for the swap.

3. www.car-part.com You can locate entire lightning longblocks with supercharger assemblys bolted on. You can even locate entire lightning drivetrains including the engine, supercharger assembly and transmissions.

4. www.ebaymotors.com Go to the car and truck parts section and type in "lightning" . Then go to the engine and supercharger section. You will find lightning supercharger assemblys for sale almost everyday.

5. www.f150online.com Go to the Lightning section. All four (4) major lightning tuners "hang out" there including "madferraristi" (he is also a "regular" in this section) , "JDM", "JLP" and "PSP" (they all have their own websites as well). You could also place a want ad in this sites classifieds.

6. Most importantly, this site's SEARCH function is the best tool you can use.

You have many options and choices including:

A. Bolt on the supercharger assembly only, or
B. Swap engines and bolt on supercharger assembly, or
C. Swap engines, transmissions and bolt on supercharger
assembly, or
D. Perform a complete Lightning drivetrain swap.
E. Can swap the lightning supercharger assembly roots headunit for several other roots, or twinscrews or centrifugal or soon a turbo unit.

Note: The F150 Harley-Davidson supercharger assembly is the same as the Lightning version and will bolt on as well, except it has a lower boost pulley and part of the assembly may be black.


See more athttps://www.f150online.com/galleries....cfm?gnum=5792
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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...or if you don't like a single, get these

Twin Eaton Roots Blowers!

Or if you like more than twins, get these

Whipple QUAD Rotor Screw Supercharger! Twin TwinScrews!!!! 1600hp and tq. on 89 octane!

Or if you are on a small budget, at least get a used kit like this

Allen (Magnacharger) intercooled Eaton Roots kit. You will love it off the line and Chevys will hate you. I think Adam67 has a 5.4 version for sale.
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 01:20 AM
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.....and if you can budget a lot of money over time, get these

Roots M90 Twins!

or these

Roots M112 Twins!

The Jersey made me do it.
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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u guys are nuts, but yeah thanks for the advice i will look into the svt super charger, and yes i have 97-04 soch 5.4L engine, so yeah thanks for the advice, but how do u think the kenne bell superchargers would compare?
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:07 AM
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The F150 Kenne Bell is a twinscrew kit, so its good, very good. In fact, the kenne Bell twinscrew used on a Lightning holds the record for the fastest late model F150/Lightning (9.7 in 1/4th mile) and fastest Supercrew (F150 Harley) (10 sec. 1/4 mile) AND the Kenne Bell Twinscrew on a lightning, recently made 1,023 ft/lbs of rear wheel torque!!!!

However, the F150 Kenne Bell kit is not intercooled. Yet, with fluid injection, you can overcome this. In fact, in the summer heat, I would use fluid injection, even if I had an intercooler.

Everyone wants the Whipple intercooled twinscrew kits, but they have not been released yet.

If you put a lightning intercooled supercharger assembly on your 5.4, you could eventually replace the Eaton M112 roots unit with a bolt on twinscrew adapter kit from Kenne Bell. Thereby allowing you to have an intercooled twinscrew.
 

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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:18 AM
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thanks for the help i greatly appreaciate it, i just like get my harley to be supercharged to be like the new ones, i dont like the look i get wen i say its not!!, but i also want one to shut up a red dakota, and my budget is looking to be a bout 4 grand, and if i dont spend that much, i wouldnt mind at all. btw would it be cheaper to get the svt supercharger and then later replace it with the kennebell twin screw, or would it not matter?..thanks for ur help.
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:47 AM
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In the short and long run, I would highly recommend the lightning intercooled supercharger assembly. With just a pulley change with the oem Eaton M112, and a tuned chip, you will be faster than stock factory supercharged F150 Harley Davidsons. You will love where and when it makes the torque in the powerband. You should be able to get everything you need for far less than your max. budget.

Lightning assembly, Allen (Magnacharger), or Kenne Bell are all great choices. But the best choice is the one that YOU like and can afford. I like them all. I have an Eaton roots kit that I enjoy everyday, but would have been happy with a centrifugal and I want the Whipple 3.3 twinscrew, yet I have been collecting parts to install a lightning engine AND lightning supercharger assembly.

Madenterprise can help you decide what is best for your specific situation.
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:08 AM
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thank you for your help, how much do u think the grand total cost would be? if i were to go with the lightning set up, also does it come with directions to install, beacause if i have my frens dad install it, i dont want it to be a very big problem for him to do, like fuel lines and shet..thanks for your help!

ur truck is pretty sick, do u have any quartermile times, well heres my truck if u wanna look at it, its still a pup, but soon will be a lil more nuts!...ahhah thanks for ur help man.

wat else do u think about the magstine, and powerdine superchargers?
https://www.f150online.com/galleries....cfm?gnum=5907
 

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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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I think it could be done for around $4K maybe even cheaper if you shop around. i don't anyone has written a true how-to but between the few here and Mike you'll get all the info you need.

Another option would be to shop for a used kit which can be found for 2K sometimes. Though not the top of the line even the powerdyne is a step above stock!!

Or go turbo

I liked the lightning idea that is what i went with. OEM fit finish product with proven limits and reliablity.
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Your version of the HD is the main F150, that should have been supercharged from the factory! In my personal taste, the F150 supercab flareside is the best truck design ever. Does yours have the black leather interior?

I think I should have just got an F150 supercab flareside Harley Davidson like yours and then just put the lightning supercharger assembly in it and I would have been finished for the most part. Instead, with my regular F150 supercab flareside, I have performed major mods and I am still no where near finished.

lightning/HD Supercharger assembly + parts kit = $2400 to $3000
Computer chip = $400
Total = $2800 to $3400

Here is the lightning/HD supercharger assembly that you need
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW

here is another one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW

this is the heat exchanger that you need
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW

Here is the specific parts list, prices, and computer chip info at madenterprise.com
http://www.madenterprise.com/scparts.htm

Madenterprise will provide you with detailed instructions and all the tech support will need during the install.

No matter what kit you use, you will be dropping the fuel tank to install a larger fuel pump. As long as you have very little fuel in it and at least two guys helping, it is no big deal (only one guy and its a pain).
Infact, your lightning assembly is no big deal either. Only 10 little 10mm bolts hold your oem manifold on. Take these bolts out, pull off your stock manifold, set the lightning assembly down on your heads, put the 10mm bolts back in and PRESTO! The major portion of the install is done! Why? Because you already have a 5.4.

Never heard of a magstine. The Powerdyne is the best "bang for the buck" out there. Can get a new one for around 2 grand and you can find used ones for 1 grand. Some of the early ones had bearing problems and it is not intercooled in stock kit form. But, you will find that all the systems have something you must be warry of . If its "man made" it can fail. WLF knows alot about the powerdynes.
 

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Old May 24, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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thanks for your help, ill prob ask for more help later on, but thanks. yeah i get black interior, ill put interior pics later. but i think im goin with the lightning supercharger, can always upgrade latter if im not satisfied right?
 

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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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The lightning intercooled supercharger assembly comes with a oem Eaton M-112 Roots supercharger unit. It has a max. "usable" boost level of 12-14 psi and with a good tuned chip, make about 425 rwhp and 500 rwtq. This amount of power is about the "safe" max level of power that your stock engine can handle anyway. Remember, its about safe max. power engine limits AND where the supercharger makes the power/torque, not just peak numbers (you want both if possible).

If you ever get a "built" block and want mega boost, or if you just want to make the same power "easier", you can unbolt the M-112 unit and replace it with the following:
1. New or used or existing unit Ported Eaton Roots M-112
2. New or used Magnum Powers Roots
3. Used Works Roots (hard to find)
4. Used Works 2.3 Twinscrew (hard to find)
5. New or used Kenne Bell 2.3 twinscrew
6. New or used centrifugal with adapter kit (currently in prototype stage)
7. New or used single turbo with adapter kit (currently in prototype stage and you actually leave existing M-112 unit casing bolted on with turbo kit!)
8. New Whipple 2.3 Twinscrew (pending release)
9. New 3.3 Twinscrew (pending release and my favorite)

Including the stock M-112 unit, this represents a total of 10 different units that bolt on to the existing lightning intercooled supercharger assembly and includes many different pulley/boost combinations.
 

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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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If I had the 5.4 I would probably do the same thing. Check out what is on ebay right now. This is a great way to get started, you get the entire intake from lower manifold to TB with blower, heat exchanger and injectors.
Not bad for the price.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW
Have fun...
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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allright thanks for the help, i really appreciate it, i didnt want to just spend any kind of money on something i wouldnt have felt satisfied with. so thanks for the help..ill be in touch
 
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