I agree, It would probably be a little better sound maybe, as to seal, this is sealed very good....

As to cutting up a panel, my truck has 4800 miles and a 6 year ext. warranty that I payed good money for... so I'm not cutting anything thats not absolutely necessary to cut....

This was much harder to do, cutting the panel would be easy....

but, not to say, when warranty is up, I would have no problem cutting the panel and reinstalling..

 

Guys, I have bad news about the jerky. Its almost all gone...and I didnt get a second deer So Im sorry but I dont have any.

However...some night one might 'magically' appear in the back of my truck If so...

 

Yeaa, I was going tomorrow, but just found I don't have any hot water, looks like I'm playing Mr Plumber tomorrow instead of Deer Slayer....

 

Guys, later after I play Mr. Plumber...

I want to go over setup on this system some more... I started at 80 Hz across the board..... at present the Germ are at 60 Hz pass 150w RMS, the SL's are at 70 Hz pass 60w RMS and the sub is at 70 Hz pass 300w RMS..

Sounds good here, but not sure on running the Germs and SL's below 80 hz...

I set levels on Eclipse amps with clipping light slightly blinking and backed off just a little, this is with all controls flat, HU vol at 65, goes to 80...

Although Eclipse HU's are suppose to have non clipping preouts, this is why they say to set vol to max in the manual for setup....

Will check with DMM when done setting up to be sure on levels

Any recommends????

 

I would definitely not run the SLs below 80...the Germs should be able to handle it. I have had my PLs down to 50hz, but I perfer them at 80hz. It's just personal perfence...set the amps properly with a DMM and see if you still get the clip signal. I'm not familiar with Elcipse HUs...I've only had a 8051 a while back.

 

cool, I think i'm going back to 80 across the board, going to set the hi and low with a 80 test tone and a med vol level this time for setting the xover.... maybe the 80 printed on the pot on the amp it off... a test tone will show if it is....

what test tone do you recommend for setting gains 0db -3db -6db ??
I've been using 0db, but thinking about using a -3db this time...

 

Well, I may have found out what helped the Polks go up in smoke...

This Eclipse XA5000 is putting out 32.45 volts on a bridged ch. before the clipping lights starts to come on with the truck running....

Thats about 260w a ch... on a 150 rated ch 4 ohm..

So I called Don, and yes he even answered the phone..

I asked if he knew if these amps are that under rated, he's is also a Eclipse Dealer, he said yes, but didn't realize that under rated, (Not installed one yet) he said not surprising and that they are very well built solid amps... went over my test and said everything was done right, he also agreed that the clipping light on these amp is very accurate when used with a test tones...

I asked about putting that much power to the Germs and he said, give it to them.. they will take it and more....

 

Gotta love the Bows.

That's cool about those Eclipse amps...nice to know if I ever decide to get rid of my Zapcos. lol

 

Like that's gonna happen

This thread is really making me think about upgrading to the Germs.

 

You never know. LMAO

I think you should upgrade to the Germs. Go for it!!!!

 

Depends on the slope of the crossover. I have my ProVandis crossed over at 63 Hz, thats with a 24 db slope though. Might want to watch the gains depending on how low you go too... Im not familiar with the Germs, but playing down around 50-60 hz unfiltered with 260 watts can be deadly to some speakers...Just have to listen for stress.

Eclipse HU will clip at higher volumes to. I cant remember the exact volume number, but even my 8053 will start clipping a few clicks under full volume.

I have my comp amp set with a 0db test tone; I dont have the guts to set that amp with a -3db test tone-has the potential to get ugly My sub amp is set with a -3 db test tone though. It really depends on what kind of music you listen to. For your sub amp, if you dont mainly listen to really bass heavy music (rap, that stuff) then -3 db is fine. If you mainly listen to real bass heavy music, just use a 0db tone. -6db only if you listen to music with like zero bass.

 

I went with 80 Hz across the board on x-overs, setting the amp pots with a 80 Hz test tone and not even looking at the pass scale marks on the amp... after setting I looked at the marks and they are not even close....

I set the gains with the clipping lights on the amps just starting to blink and backed off a bit... HU vol was at 65... AC/DC Back In Black was the CD.... sounds a lot better now, although it was sounding damn good to start with... The sub is blending better now with the midbass from the Rainbows....

Will check tomorrow with DMM to see where the power level is.... I'm still shocked at the power this XA is putting out... maybe i just got a really strong one or who knows... I know the EA's is pretty much on spec... so I figured the XA's would be also, fooled me...

well, I'm going for a drive... listen to some tunes... got to break these Rainbows in....

 

All I know is my ears are ringing
They take some tweaking to get them just right and I havent messed with the crossovers yet but they scream, I guess I'm giving them about half to 3/4
volume with the Zapco 750, I think thats 175 watts a channel at 4 Ohms, might be a little much but I think they can handle it.

 

have you dropped the tweeter down a notch yet, to #3.. I'm thinking about doing it.... these twets are no toys, not harsh at all, but loud and clear....

 

I've read this thread a 100 times.. I want to upgrade to Rainbow so bad now..