Lean Mix
Lean Mix
My 94 5.8 non MAF is running lean, slight miss and pings sometimes under load
Things i have done
Replaced rear fuel pump (FP is now 28-30 psi at idle on front and rear tank)
new FP regulator
timing at factory spec. 10 BTDC
Plugs
wires (made sure correct routing)
cap
rotor
injector cleaner in gas
sea foam in intake
kind of at a loss now and need some help!
EGR valve?
Things i have done
Replaced rear fuel pump (FP is now 28-30 psi at idle on front and rear tank)
new FP regulator
timing at factory spec. 10 BTDC
Plugs
wires (made sure correct routing)
cap
rotor
injector cleaner in gas
sea foam in intake
kind of at a loss now and need some help!
EGR valve?
30 is a little low.

Did you replace the whole FDM, or just the pump motor inside?
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Yes, you can temporarily block off the EGR by removing it (or the supply pipe) & reinstalling with a piece of Aluminum foil across the port. Don't leave it that way - it can damage the engine. If the missing stops (don't do this at the same time as ANY other work, or you won't know which one affected it), remove the foil & see if the miss returns. Check the brake booster by crimping its hose.
But the more-common vacuum leak on those V8s is the plenum-to-intake gasket (#52), and you need a long T40 to remove one of the plenum bolts. The unlabelled stud near #56 can also be a PITA.
Did you replace the whole FDM, or just the pump motor inside?
Yes, you can temporarily block off the EGR by removing it (or the supply pipe) & reinstalling with a piece of Aluminum foil across the port. Don't leave it that way - it can damage the engine. If the missing stops (don't do this at the same time as ANY other work, or you won't know which one affected it), remove the foil & see if the miss returns. Check the brake booster by crimping its hose.
But the more-common vacuum leak on those V8s is the plenum-to-intake gasket (#52), and you need a long T40 to remove one of the plenum bolts. The unlabelled stud near #56 can also be a PITA.
I replaced the whole fuel pump assembly. I have changed the fuel filter and still the 28-30 psi at the rail. If i take the vac line off the regulator it jumps to 45 psi. I have checked for vac leaks as before i had a problem with the cold air blowing out of the defrost vents when going uphill. I found a leak and fixed it and that problem went away. I will give the EGR valve a go and check for more vac leak's
Thanks
Thanks
that's what i thought. I changed the regulator and the fuel pressure is the same. i guess its possible i got a bad regulator. what sort of vac reading should i be getting at the regulator at idle?
All red vacuum lines under the hood are direct manifold vacuum. For more about manifold vacuum, read this page & the next:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/ergoff/vac1.htm
Here's another:
http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm
http://www.users.bigpond.com/ergoff/vac1.htm
Here's another:
http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm
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Plenum gasket has probably failed. Spray carb cleaner along the base of the upper plenum while the engine is running. If the idle goes up, you have a vacuum leak at the gasket. Removing the plenum will reveal a broken paper gasket. The 92 up 5.0 doesn't blow this gasket due to the fact that they replaced the gasket material at the factory, but the 5.8 still has paper gaskets.


