Actually Habs, Torbjorn Eriksen is an Odinist, not a Christian.

 

Nope. From what we have seen so far, there is no evidence so far that says he did this act in the name of Christ, actively attended church, has been baptized, was an active member of anything Christian related, etc. So far all we have is the MSM and anti-Christian bigots playing up something that isn't true, much like was done to Palin and the Tea Party after the Arizona shootings....


So I can say I invented the internet and that would make it true? I could say someone on here isn't an anti-Christian bigot and that would make it true? I could say I make $5 million a year and that would make it true? Great logic there...

 

Jack, why did you even waste the keystrokes to type that?

Habs, you're in the wrong place to be using such comparisons but let me summarize it for you.

'Mericanism:

Full blood 'Merican's have the big guns so why should they give a what anyone else thinks?

'Mericans are the world police because a strong offense is better and more manly that having a solid defense.

'Mericans can control nearly every nation in the world if the report is worded right.

(but if the average 'Merican wasn't so hard headed they would realize they are eating off everyone else's plate rather than one they made. We are a consumer economy, our way of life is only possible by receiving tangible goods and giving a useless piece of paper in return. But since 'Mericans hold the previous traits this last part shouldn't be a big problem...yet)


But, Habs, if you want to just argue about religion and it's followers maybe the Muslims should send out peaceful missionaries like the English, Spanish and French had all those centuries ago. Notice how peaceful America has become to its fellow Americans since the "heathen" natives were given religion rather than forced (refer to how their heathen ways were vanquished by the light of Christianity and endless determination of Christian followers if you don't know the history)? Reading a little bit of history will show that Christians are more peaceful when dealing with other religions.

 

Not quite accurate, Jack. I heard the piece you are referring to and that is a mis-quote.

What Glenn Beck was referring to was that it was odd that a political party has a yearly "youth" camp. His point was was that the political climate there is very much different than ours. He gave an example that it would be a cold day in **** that he would send his kid to a POLITICAL youth camp. He also referenced that it was Adolf Hitler who had "Political" youth camps also, AKA the Hitler youth. At no time did he call the kids *****.

As much as one would like or dislike a commentator, I think that it is only fair to correctly quote them. I know this is probably an oversight in this case because you are usually pretty level headed on these kinds of things.

Jim

 

No, Jim, and I appreciate your comments here. This is the quote I was referring to:Honestly, that seems a mis-guided slur on some grieving parents that don't deserve this kind of rhetoric at this time. Did the kids wear uniforms? Did they carry knives (I have one of those that my Father brought back from the War). Did they march in parades?

There are all kinds of camps for kids. What group is he going to target next?

Yes, I'm sure Mr. Beck was just being his usual "sloppy" self as a "talking head". But, this kind of "reporting" is simply not acceptable. It is pure tabloid journalism.

As I said, Mr. Beck needs to revert to being an alcoholic. Anyone who needs to have his initials all over the wall behind him (even on radio) needs some serious help, and possibly that help can only come from a bottle.

- Jack

 

That is equally as ridiculous a statement as Beck's.

 

No, you possibly misunderstand me. I think his brand of "righteous reporting" needs to crawl back into the hole it came out of. I'd simply like to see him get his satisfaction elsewhere.

Yes, he really needs "professional" help, but he's way beyond that.

- Jack

 

I'm not asking you to agree or disagree with Beck on his point of view. What you are quoting here is some body's else's paraphrase of what was actually said. That was the point I was making. Even if you dislike someone it isn't fair or accurate to parrot some one else's version of what was really said. I think that is what gets us into trouble in alot of these discussions, and I am as guilty as the next guy. I was only trying to set the quote straight.

 

That's all your personal opinion though.

 

That would be the grapevine effect. The story changes each time it is told.

 

I'm sorry, I "quoted a quote". If the quote I quoted was not an accurate quote, then I'm sorry I quoted it. (Confused yet?)

Since, like, SSCULLY, I DO NOT listen to Mr. Beck, I can only report on what I read. I did not change the quote I quoted. This is one link where it appeared: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...youth-1.375388

- Jack

 

I am curious to see the original quote now, not the spin.

 

No "spin" in the link I just posted, Harley.

- Jack

 

Having heard the original and seeing the article I can see where you were not clear on this. That article does sound a little slanted, IMHO.

Glad you didn't take it wrong Jack, It seems we are ALL fed alot of bull poop these days and are expected to to make beef stew out of it. Just wanted to set it straight.

Thanks
Jim

 

Its all good Jack, I think we posted within seconds of each other, didnt actually see your post until now. I did a google search of what he said. Quote is pretty much accurate. As a side note their are alot of anti-Beck people out there lol. Lots of "hit pieces" written on the subject.