Ouch! We can always count on you Raoul. There are times when I feel you are the guru on the mountain top and I'm the suppliant crawling my way up for your advice. (Of course you'd probably tell me my answer was at the bottom of the mountain.)

- Jack

 

The post was merely a string of eight or nine insults slung together. Guess they were snippets of responses he's collected over the years.

He doesn't hit the Submit button until he makes his point and there was no point in that post.
I'll bet when he read it back to himself he didn't even use his own voice.

 

Um, maybe stuff like this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_912978.html

Maybe we could make a thread with a score sheet!

 

Thank you for posting that, I did not hear that one.
Wow, what a family of wack jobs !!

Muslim beliefs don't have anything about being a pedophile ???

The guy uses his beliefs to try to get out of the military last year, but this year is caught with child pornography and after being charged decides to try to bomb the military base.

The alleged defense "Abdo admitted plotting an attack, but in Fuhais, Jordan" I did plot an attack, but it was in Jordan. So I am innocent on this one wow, talk about not too smart.

Dad is a great character witness for him.
"Naser is not the kind of a person who harbors evil for the other people, he cannot kill anyone and he could not have done any bad thing"

Anyone else see an issue with this ?
His son joined the military, but claimed he cannot kill anyone ???
You may get an assignment in payroll in the military and never see combat, but I thought you were still expected to do the job you were trained for.

Dad is not helping his cause, with being deported for a conviction of soliciting a minor.

Love the part where the U.S. marshals pulled him from his seat for not standing when the Judge walked into the room.

I think it is safe to say, this guy uses his "beliefs" as an excuse not as a life choice. It is a convenience thing, that he pulls out when it suits his needs. That is not really being a Muslim.

 

Using a pressure cooker, you say? lol How inconspicuous.

 

No, he was making some Pressure cooker Italian Chicken Soup.
Thing is he confused items to be used as the chicken part with shrapnel, minced garlic - gunpowder.. that is a simple mistake anyone could make.

 

Yea I've made the same mistake when I load my shotgun shells, but the other way around.......Gives a whole new meaning to "Hey let's go out and shoot some birds"!

They really should label that stuff better.

 

Speaking of crickets......where is Habbs?

 

First and foremost, this guy is a lowlife that deserves to be punished to the maximum extent.

Now onto the other part.

In one entry of his 1500 page manifesto he called himself christian. Textual clues in his writing suggest that he calls himself christian to define himself as a white, non-muslum, european person.

He actually writes in his manifesto that he has a problem with christians as they are too soft hearted.

He has stated in a self interview that he is opposed to a "christian fundamentalist theoracracy" rather he wants a "secular European society" and that one doesn't have to believe in god or Jesus to join his cause. Rather you just need to be "christian agnostic" or "christian athiest" which only reinforces the belief that his "christian" label of himself is only one of convienience to define himself as white, non-muslim european.

He has called himself "not excessively religious" but "a man of logic first and foremost" and believes in darwinism.

I think its pretty safe to say that this is a very confused man, who did a horrendous thing. I know I just backed up your argument in that I just claimed that "he really isn't a christian" but in this instance, I think there is some good truth to the matter.

 

Benny says he knows he just made Habs argument. I don't think that's Habs point at all and I don't think Habs is gloating over the issue.

Habs simply wants Muslims to get the same treatment as Christians. To do something this "over the top" is not Christian, but many of you crucify Muslims for the same crap. It takes all kinds to make a world, and I would bet something like this would not be condoned by true Muslims either.
Thanks SSCULLY for stating that point, but I think many of you missed it.

Reminds me of a friend of mine. He says there are bad Republicans and bad Democrats, but the difference is, there are no good Democrats. He refuses to vote for a Democrat regardless of platform or level of office. I can't convince him that isn't a very healthy thought process.
BTW, in my travels, I've never heard a Democrat say the reverse.

 

I'm all for muslims getting the same treatment as christians. The fort hood shooter, shouted "Allah Ackbar!" while running around killing people. He was a muslim, yet in the first 7 articles written about it in the NY times, it was mentioned once. And the one time it was mentioned, was nearly a year after the shooting. As a matter of fact, the major news agencies were cautioning people to not say it was due to his religion which it turned out it was. It was common people out there saying "hey this guy is muslim" from what I saw.

On the other hand, in this guys case as soon as they saw a one time mention of christianity every major news agency rushed to label him as such.

So why the discrepancy? Why is there cautioning us not to judge when it looks like it is a legitimate islamic terrorist act, but when its a white male "christian" everybody is quick to point it out?

So maybe the answer to Habs' question is this: People are quick to point the finger and demand justice when a muslim commits a similar act because the media tends to do it for us when the act is done by a white male christian.

 

A couple of things come to mind about what you are saying.

First none of us can, or should, put words in Habb's mouth. Habbs threw this out as a challenge.

Second, I have to think about the frequency of incidents, either by christian or muslim. It's alot more common to see one of these events that have some kind of muslim connection.

Third, it is very easy to find a person who professes to be christian that condems the Norway nut, but on the other hand it seems to be much harder to find any "real" muslims who will condem ANY of the crimes committed by one of their brothers.

And last, the nut in Norway was "branded" as a christian by the MSM with very little evidence of that being true or not. As time passes it is becomming much clearer that in fact he was not a follower of any kind of christian teachings.
How ever things like the Fort Hood shooting and even the recient failed attempt to "attack" Fort Hood seem to be devoid of any religious connections according to the MSM, Even in light of the fact that the perps would praise Ala while doing their deeds.

To me it seems like an apples to oranges comparison.

 

So the good folks on this forum are quick to point a finger at ALL Muslims when one or more commit such vile acts because they wish to "balance the unbalanced" reporting of the MSM, not because they actually feel that way.

Gottcha, check!

 

This ( sarcastic ) post just about sums it up.

I see the quotes from the Quran about how it is kill anyone that does not follow Islam, but if one were to quote a line from the bible ( along similar - not so modern thought process ), you are considered a heretic, and you are not to take those passages literally, or you are taking it out of context ( like that cannot happen with the Quran ).

I have posted about how the few do not represent the whole, but it falls on deaf ears.

The one delta between followers of Islam and followers of Christianity, that commit some act, is the ones on the Islam side more often than not are doing this for a religious reason, so the stereotype is built upon.
Just like the stereotype you will only find white people in a trailer park, some should extend that all white people live in trailer parks.

It is the same thought process, inductive reasoning, which is usually flawed.

To be correct, there appears to be a strong, politically correct movement towards Islam when someone from this religion commits an act.
These incidents are usually reported by the MSM ( or statements from specific people ) as not to be too quick to judge the reason, and wait until all the facts are in ( which if you wait for the MSM to do that, it will never happen ).
This I think is what drives the balance issue with some, The Ft Hood shooting was a great example of this. How many times was it stated, 'wait until all the facts are in' ?

 

Steve, I agree with what you say, but I truly didn't intend sarcasm with my post. I just tried to summarize what I saw in the two posts above mine. (as I re-read it, I can see how it might be viewed as sarcasm.)