OK, I have been looking through this page and have noticed that there are a lot of 2wd trucks with lifts and big tires. Is this just me or does that just not make sence? I know that none of you guys race your trucks off-road. If your wanting to do some off-roading, get a 4x4!!!. None of your trucks could do as much as a stock 4x4. Just my $.02

 

Need to watch a little more ESPN. lol 2WD Off-road race trucks (Pre-runners) are lighte and much faster than 4WD trucks. Having only had my truck for 4 months I haven't had time to do much to it, but will likely convert and race it. A guy I work with is an official for S.C.O.R.E. and tells me he is seeing more 2WDs each year, and doesn't know why they are racing 4WD still. He has an 00 F-150 XLT 2WD Pre-runner, bad a$$ looking rig!!

 

I wasn't saying 2wd was bad for racing. There's no way i'd drive a 4wd for that, it' just like you said, too heavy. What i was asking is why do i see so many 2wd trucks trying to play in the mud and rocks, this doesn't make sence that someone would build a 2wd for anything other than racing.

 

Sorry, missunderstood your ?? Mud is no place for a 2WD.
You are right, too many times did I have to pull a 2WD out of the mud (becuse he was in my way). Just got rid of a 90 Bronco 5.8 E.B. Loved the trails, mud and climbs, but want to pick up the pace.

 

I've never had a problem with a good 2wd off road. I've never gone off road for the snot of it. As for mud it is tricky but 4 wheel has never really helped us on the farm. you end up stuck no matter what. Now a 4wd tractor is an off road vehicle if you want to run in mud, snow, or worse.

 

i have a 2wd and for me even in the hills of tx. im not going to take my truck and try to climb up one of those rocky hills. when i get ny lift hopefully in a month i plan on keeping it on the road. so basicly for looks

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2000 4.2l V-6 w/sport package std. cab. 2wd, bright red
billet grille
clear corners
herculiner bed liner
k&n filter
sony head unit
two 10" kicker comps.
sony amp

future:
spindle lift
fipk
chip
headers when they go down from $330
exhaust

 

4X4 Guy:

I had the same thought when I saw a blue F150 with 32" tires drive through town a few weeks ago. The truck had a V6 and auto transmission, it seemed to be having trouble turning the tires to start with let alone take it off road. This however got me thinking, it would certainly never lose any traction to wheel slip while off road... but then again I don't lose much when I am in 4L anyways. Long and short, real mud buggies are 4X4... It's almost like a religion.

Catch you later
Father 4X4 Guy

 

OK, couple of thoughts here:

First, I have taken my 2wd off-road several times, I haven't gotten stuck the last couple of times. That's because I have learned which line to take. I think my 2wd is a very capable off-road vehicle, that is because I know how to drive it offroad. The vehicle can only take you so far, it's the driver that makes the difference.

Second, I have noticed from members of my club, longhorn offroad, that more than anything, the determining factor in not getting stuck is having the right tires. If you have stock tires on your 4wd, I garuantee that my 2wd will get farther in any mud pit.

Third, a 2wd with a locker of some kind will always go farther than a 4wd with open diffs. This is a fact, what good are 4 wheels when only one has traction.

4th, I agree with the statement about rocks. Rocks are no place for a 2wd, esspecially not a full size truck.

5th, the only time I have had trouble with my 2wd offroad is climbing hills. That's when 4wd would come in handy for me.

If any of you doubt me, just drop me an e-mail and I'll take you out with me the next time I go offroading and you'll see what I can do.

OK, just had to say all that. BTW, please don't take offence at any of my rants, they are all light hearted discussion. Just take it at that. Thanks.

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2000 Silver F-150 XL Sport
Reg. Cab, Reg. Bed, 4.2L V6, 5-speed, 4x2

mods:
Tailgate lock, Generic bedliner
285/75r16 BFG AT ko (32.9x11.4)
Sony CD player, Blaunpunkt 5.25" speakers
Crimeguard alarm, Power locks
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[This message has been edited by r0land (edited 04-04-2001).]

 

Are you sure that is what you mean? Go back and think about that for a second. I promise you, if I put my stock 17" Goodyears back on and we went into the mud that you would be stuck long before I would. 4 tires turnin over two makes too big a difference, I know.

Maybe, just maybe you can make a Texas Chapter event someday, and we can all go get muddy like we did in San Antonio. I have the same tires you do, and they aren't for the mud, they get way too filled up in mud.

Hey JDm, are you out there? You have a really nice lifted 2wd, what are your thoughts on this subject, and do you think I am wrong? Agree, disagree?

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98 Black F150 S/C 4x4 ORP 5.4

4" Rancho lift, 14 KC lights, lots of other goodies. Check out www.F150World.com/Mudder for pics and all the info.

 

OK, so that was probably a bit overstated. What I mean to say, is that I have seen some jeeps and tacomas that were stock get stuck were I have made it through. Yes, 4 tires turning are better than 2. I have been very pleasantly surprised at how well my all-terrains do in the mud. I think they are great mud tires. Not as great as the mud-terrians, but that is why they call them as such. I'd love to come out with the tx chapter. Guess I need to join first though...
My point to all this is that you guys shouldn't discredit a 2wd just because it's not a 4wd.

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2000 Silver F-150 XL Sport
Reg. Cab, Reg. Bed, 4.2L V6, 5-speed, 4x2

mods:
Tailgate lock, Generic bedliner
285/75r16 BFG AT ko (32.9x11.4)
Sony CD player, Blaunpunkt 5.25" speakers
Crimeguard alarm, Power locks
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Never let your schooling interfere with your education --Mark Twain

 

r0land,

Even though I am a 4x4 man, I agree with everything you said. The stock tires on the 4x4 suck!! I've been stuck so many times because of those tires. Also a locker rear definetly has its advantages over the stock setup and will give the 2x4 the extra traction it needs to stay with the 4x4's in the mud. These trucks are to big and heavy for severe rock terrain. Also I am kind of disappointed in the climbing ability of these trucks. I can't climb anything without all wheels spinning. Maybe it is just my tires.

All I can say is that I do miss 4x4ing out in Moab with a 79 scout II diesel with detroit lockers, bias ply tires, 4" suspension lift, etc. That thing could do anything.

A lifted 2x4 isn't bad to have. They look great and are pretty fast and cheap to own. They costed less in the first place and the mods needed to lift them are cheaper than for a 4x4.

kev

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99 F-150 Red 0RP, 17" factory crome 5-spoke wheels, 5.4L, AT, 3.73 GR, Ext Cab, Putco Bed Rails, Pendaliner, Pioneer P300 head unit. Mods to come: PA 3" body lift and Mickey Baja Belted HP's 35/12.5/17 tires, and dual exhaust.

Other toys:
87 Chrysler Conquest TSI, 350 HP 2.6L 4cyl turbo, 0.020 over, o-ringed, copper head gasket, HV oil pump, race prepped rods, floating wrist pins, JE forged pistons, sealed power rings, marnal head, 284 cam, HD valve springs, enlarged TB, 125psi fuel pump, BCFPR, MBC, T4/5 20G Model 1a turbo, BOV, hardpipes, etc etc.

72 Honda SL350 on/off road twin bike

78 Honda CX500 twin bike liquid cooled, shaft driven.

67 mustang 6cyl, AT, coupe, AC
condition: rust, waiting for restoration

 

Hello all,

I'll tell you what I think doesn't make sense. Any SUV that isn't 4x4.

In 1992 I bought a new Exploder sport 4x4. Did some fairly radical off roading (rubicon/mojave trail etc. for those of you on the west coast).

When the day came to trade up, I couldn't afford a 4x4. So I decided -- a pickup. Why? A 2wd pickup is legit. A 2wd SUV? It's a station wagon as far as I'm concerned. Just MHO.

F

 

Hey, I was just gonna say that I think a 4x4 with stock tires can as good or do better than a 2wd with A/Ts or M/Ts. As long as you keep the power down, your gonna be ok. with the power, you should have 3 tires spinning with 4wd, because most trucks these days have a fairly good LS in the rear usually, so you would most likely just be ped legged in the front. A locked 2wd wont have the wheel in the front going. My friend(OneBadCrewx4) has the stock RT/Ss and does pretty well in all situations, because he knows what he is doing. So im still not convinced that a 2wd has the off-road capability of a 4x4.

 

F150's can climb big hills just fine, atleast these boys can:











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98 Black F150 S/C 4x4 ORP 5.4

4" Rancho lift, 14 KC lights, lots of other goodies. Check out www.F150World.com/Mudder for pics and all the info.

 

All I gotta say is, DAMN that's some good looking trucks! Where are those pics off? That place looks fun!

I don't think a 2wd has the capability of a well built 4wd either, but that doesn't mean you have to just discredit them. I would love to have gotten 4wd and a 4.6 v8, but I couldn't afford either. But I'm not gonna just sit there because I have a 2wd, I can get out an play just a rough as all my 4wd buddies.

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2000 Silver F-150 XL Sport
Reg. Cab, Reg. Bed, 4.2L V6, 5-speed, 4x2

mods:
Tailgate lock, Generic bedliner
285/75r16 BFG AT ko (32.9x11.4)
Sony CD player, Blaunpunkt 5.25" speakers
Crimeguard alarm, Power locks
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Never let your schooling interfere with your education --Mark Twain

[This message has been edited by r0land (edited 04-04-2001).]