NO, NO DIGITAL PICS TO SEND, SORRY.
I'LL HAVE SOME SOON.
AND TALKING ABOUT SINK IN MUD WITH A DIESEL, I DON'T WORRY ABOUT, THIS TRUCK IS ABOUT 2 TONS, APROX. THE SAME WEIGHT A 5 LTS GASOLINE, BUT IT HAS 145 HP, AND LOT OF TORQUE AT LOW REVS.
IT GOES IDLING IN FIRST OR SECOND GEAR IN MUD OR SNOW, NEVER STOPS, AND NO LOCKERS (TOO EXPENSIVE DOWNHERE).

 

Maybe you just need to be informed. Power and torque are only half of the game. Tires do as much in the mud as the 2wd guys said above, a lot.

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2001 SuperCrew ORP 5.4L Gen I
MODS-Ramsey Brush Guard and Pro Plus 9000 winch, MAAP steps, Airaid, True Duals w/ 50 series DF muffs, Line-x, bugflector, and huskyliners.
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I'm another 2wd owner.. my 2001 F150 is about to be lifted any day now with the 6inch suspension and 35" mud tires... There are days when I wish I had spent the extra three or four grand and bought myself the 4x4 instead. Not only would it be more fun in the mud and sand - but I wouldn't have to listen to all the *shoulda gotten a 4x4* comments...

But, with insurance costs (teamed with a spotted driving record - I use to own a 356hp trans am) being so high on a 4x4 and the knowledge that I don't get to take my truck offroading enough, the 2wd will have to do...for now.

 

I would give a Nad for 35's and you are putting them on a 2wd. Oh Lord help me for I have sinned!

 

When I was looking at 4x4 Dodges several years ago, everyone said, "you'll never use the 4WD. " I was stupid and listened to them, so I got a 2WD and put BFG's on it. It severly limited me: I was unable to drive on certain roads due to rocks and sand, slid all over on steep hard-packed clay with a couple inches of powerdered sand on them, was unable to go on dirt roads that lead to some lake camping spots and got stuck (strangers would have to sit in the bed of my truck for weight, when I could find them, very inconvenient) trying to shore-launch my PWC everytime, so I eventually surrendered to the cement ramps.

Now that I have a 4WD, I can't ever see myself driving anything else. I can now go into mud and through sand on purpose; when it snows, I can get to work without even slipping and drive through the creeks. It's rugged here, I've gotten stuck twice in ruts trying to take my rent check up the hill, only had 3 tires on the ground and one in the air over a ditch, front off the truck "grounded". It wouldn't budge in 4hi, but crawled right out in 4lo. There's no way I could have even gotten up the road after the rains in my 2WD. Oh, as an added bonus, it go's up curbs and drives around traffic accidents, where there's no road!

I do think that tires make a huge difference in capabilities. The BFG's helped out my Dodge and I love the Big-O tires on my Crew, they were put on Day 1; the forest service uses them on all of their 4WD trucks here. (I got to test drive a SCrew in the dirt with the 17" off-road tires and was not impressed).

This truck has opened up a new world for me in my terrain. I could have spent $$ trying to improve the Dodge for off-road, but the supercab not having any type of rear door wasn't working for me anymore.

Everybody have fun!!!

 

Hi "4x4 Guy"

Allow me to finish laughing at your call sign as you have placed us 4x2 as the target of your humor. It seems that you refer to “offroading” as mountaineering over rocks, trees and submerging your rig into a quagmire. For me, I merely wanted a truck that could make it up some hills, trample over some fallen brush for a good camp and keep my drivetrain dry while launching and retrieving my vessel. With a limited slip, I’m happy. Now lowering a 4x4 dually like I saw the other day, that boggles me.

I have had 4x4s all of my life (MN/CA) and I do prefer them. They give owners another angle or an out if you will. But, is it worth the extra 4K at delivery, maintenance, insurance and parts to wear for those who drive them daily? Yours looks like a daily driver.

Do you know how lifted trucks came to be so popular? In the South, to avoid floodwaters, folks lifted the bodies of their trucks (and cars) to preserve their drivetrains and interiors. It was later that some genius figured that if one wanted to test the terrestrial limitations of his vehicle that he would need larger running gear to get his pumpkins off the ground (the differentials too).

I do not believe anyone, until now, has INITIATED any kind of a post that challenged a 4x4’s capability by prouding a 4x2’s chest in your face. Perhaps, in the future, you could enlighten us why anyone would invest 25K+ dollars in a lifted 4x4 rig that could accomplish half of what a short wheel-based jeep could do for under 15K. It is all preference and that is why this forum was designed for “ENTHUSIASTS” to help one another with any questions he or she should have about his or her F-150.

 

Hi "4x4 Guy"

Allow me to finish laughing at your call sign as you have placed us 4x2 as the target of your humor. It seems that you refer to “offroading” as mountaineering over rocks, trees and submerging your rig into a quagmire. For me, I merely wanted a truck that could make it up some hills, trample over some fallen brush for a good camp and keep my drivetrain dry while launching and retrieving my vessel. With a limited slip, I’m happy. Now lowering a 4x4 dually like I saw the other day, that boggles me.

I have had 4x4s all of my life (MN/CA) and I do prefer them. They give owners another angle or an out if you will. But, is it worth the extra 4K at delivery, maintenance, insurance and parts to wear for those who drive them daily? Yours looks like a daily driver.

Do you know how lifted trucks came to be so popular? In the South, to avoid floodwaters, folks lifted the bodies of their trucks (and cars) to preserve their drivetrains and interiors. It was later that some genius figured that if one wanted to test the terrestrial limitations of his vehicle that he would need larger running gear to get his pumpkins off the ground (the differentials too).

I do not believe anyone, until now, has INITIATED any kind of a post that challenged a 4x4’s capability by prouding a 4x2’s chest in your face. Perhaps, in the future, you could enlighten us why anyone would invest 25K+ dollars in a lifted 4x4 rig that could accomplish half of what a short wheel-based jeep could do for under 15K. It is all preference and that is why this forum was designed for “ENTHUSIASTS” to help one another with any questions he or she should have about his or her F-150.

 

In an attempted rebuttal to a fellow but fiesty member; I have misposted to this section twice. Please disregard and accept my most humble apologies.

 

Ok, now i'm confused. Colby, did you honestly spend $25,000 on your 87 Bronco...I think $6,000 is what the real number was. About the lowered dually, thats crazy.

 

Ok, SattleRC, who said anything about cost?? And if im not mistaking, i dont believe anyone said we were talking about the cost of jeeps either.
Back to the point, I posted this tread to see why someone would actually lift a 2wd, or lower a 4x4 for that matter.
Yes, my truck is a Bronco, and a daily driver and when I go four-wheeling I couldn't make it in 2wd. Maybe you need to look at what Femseadoo says about his experences.

 

See... when it comes down to it, it's all about preference. Talked with my co-worker today who has an F150 supercab 4x4. It's a 1999, but he's never taken it off of the pavement. IF ya wanna keep your insurance down a little (since 4x4's make that cost go up), and still get the big truck look.. 4x2 with a lift..

 

Lifted, it sounds like you and your coworker should talk about a serious swap.

 

Tried... he wouldn't take my truck in trade.. lol.. I owe an extra five grand on top of what his is worth right now lol. *sigh*
I'll just stick to my lowly 4x2 and pretend it's a 4x4 with my lift..hahaha!!!

 

I too am one of those "weirdos" with the lifted two wheel drive truck. I am 18 and this is the first vehicle that I have purchased without help from anybody. I am so proud of my truck that I could care less what somebody else thinks about it. You get a feelin for what your two wheel drive can take, where you can go, and how fast you need to go to make it through. Ive gotten stuck only once due to my own neglect! Anyways, Id much rather have a 4x4, but I am completely satisfied with my 2 wheel drive. Lets all try and stick to constructive criticism, and not bash each other. Like I read before, blue, black, red, low, high, fast, slow..we all drive the best trucks in the world!

Good Day

 

Well, I think that it's safe to say that most 2wd's can keep up with the 4x4's. It's more about how hard you have to work at it. I've got a 2wd and my offroad buddy has a 4x4, so he is always talking blah, blah. So, every time we go out we play a little follow the leader. He leads thru everything that he thinks is going to get me stuck or high centered, and I follow. I't seems that I can make it thru everything he deos (- getting highcentered at 3am, he did to but was going fast enough he slid his frame down the peak to the rear tires). Anyways, it seems that the main difference is how hard I have to work my truck compared to how hard he works his. Having two extra wheels working for him he naturally works it 1/2 as much as I do. Point being, most of us 2wd's can keep up for sure, but, work a lot harder for it.