Lights still dimming!
#1
Lights still dimming!
I am not running near what I ran in my car and the lights are still dimming really bad in my truck. I am running 1200 watts to my subs and 480 watts to my mids and highs. I upgraded my big 4, went with an optima yellow top, and had my alternator rebuilt to 200 amps, which should more than clear everything I am pushing. I have checked all my grounds and they seem to be soild. I will be really dissapointed if I need to run two batteries for 1680 watts on this electrical system. Need some help I am about at the end of my rope here.
(I have an 02' supercrew, with the 5.4ltr)
(I have an 02' supercrew, with the 5.4ltr)
#3
Thanks for the input. I do appreciate the help but I dont want a bandaid I want to fix the problem. Something has to be wrong, new battery, 200 amp alternator, O gauge wire on all connections (body, frame,motor, and alternator). There has got to be something I am doing wrong and just overlooking.
#5
What type of wire/connectors did you use for the big four and for the amps? If you are dropping voltage through a wire run or a connection, you can isolate it with a meter.
For instance, check from one end (whatever it is bolted to at that end) of a ground wire to the other end (again, whatever it is bolted to) with a digital voltmeter with the system under load. Can do the same with the power wires....the higher the indicated voltage (drop) the higher the resistance of the wire/connector/connection.
Not sure what amps you are running, but a "true" 1200 watts RMS output delivered to a sub/subs takes a lot more than 1200 watts on the input side.
Most of the wiring kits out there are total garbage. And no it doesn't take "monster" cable, it just takes commercial stranded cable and commercial connectors.
For instance, check from one end (whatever it is bolted to at that end) of a ground wire to the other end (again, whatever it is bolted to) with a digital voltmeter with the system under load. Can do the same with the power wires....the higher the indicated voltage (drop) the higher the resistance of the wire/connector/connection.
Not sure what amps you are running, but a "true" 1200 watts RMS output delivered to a sub/subs takes a lot more than 1200 watts on the input side.
Most of the wiring kits out there are total garbage. And no it doesn't take "monster" cable, it just takes commercial stranded cable and commercial connectors.
#6
I have not had time to test the grounds with a volt meter, and I am running all 0 gauge fosgate cables with soldered ring terminals. I have them all bolted down with factory ground bolts. I did notice today something is leaking where my battery and block are grounded on the frame so I have plans to move them and check with the meter this weekend.
#7
Sometimes no matter what you do dimming lights are just apart of cranking it. I have the following:
Pioneer AVH-P4200DVD, RE SXX 12 in 2.45 Custom Port Box, Power Bass Components Front, Powerbass 5x8 rear, Powerbass ATM 900.1D Wired 1 ohm for sub, Powerbass XAX 4160FD for front and rear speakers, Stinger PRO 50F Digital Hybrid Capacitor all wired using KnuKonceptz KCA Kable 1/0 with the big 4 power/ground upgrade powered by Mechman 270 Amp High Output Alternator.
Now with all that I still get some dimming when hitting hard. It is what it is...yeah know.
Pioneer AVH-P4200DVD, RE SXX 12 in 2.45 Custom Port Box, Power Bass Components Front, Powerbass 5x8 rear, Powerbass ATM 900.1D Wired 1 ohm for sub, Powerbass XAX 4160FD for front and rear speakers, Stinger PRO 50F Digital Hybrid Capacitor all wired using KnuKonceptz KCA Kable 1/0 with the big 4 power/ground upgrade powered by Mechman 270 Amp High Output Alternator.
Now with all that I still get some dimming when hitting hard. It is what it is...yeah know.
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#8
I am not running near what I ran in my car and the lights are still dimming really bad in my truck. I am running 1200 watts to my subs and 480 watts to my mids and highs. I upgraded my big 4, went with an optima yellow top, and had my alternator rebuilt to 200 amps, which should more than clear everything I am pushing. I have checked all my grounds and they seem to be soild. I will be really dissapointed if I need to run two batteries for 1680 watts on this electrical system. Need some help I am about at the end of my rope here.
(I have an 02' supercrew, with the 5.4ltr)
(I have an 02' supercrew, with the 5.4ltr)
And don't install a cap. Those aren't even band-aids, they're just there to look cool, and provide a pinch of extra power during an amplifier's peak power draw, which isn't even audibly noticeable unless you have a strictly SQL sound system and a very sensitive ear. Nothing but a strain on your electrical system, plain and simple.
#9
And don't install a cap. Those aren't even band-aids, they're just there to look cool, and provide a pinch of extra power during an amplifier's peak power draw, which isn't even audibly noticeable unless you have a strictly SQL sound system and a very sensitive ear. Nothing but a strain on your electrical system, plain and simple.
The alternator only needs to meet the average demand of the system. On high demand transients, the battery is doing the deed. A good battery or pair of batteries (an Optima doesn't fall into this category) will go farther toward preventing or minimizing light dimming than any size alternator ever will. The typical musical transient lasts less than 0.1 sec. It takes the alternator that long to ramp up its output to meet an increase in current draw. The bigger the alternator, the longer it takes. Real world average current draw isn't nearly what most people think and unless you listen to music consisting of continuous long droning bass notes at extremely high volume, the stock alt backed up by a pair of good batteries made with car audio in mind will serve most anyone fine on a daily driver system.
#10
There's several of these out there with different brands but when I install a 800 watt or more sub amp I always try to get the customer to purchase one. I let them go at cost when I'm installing a system just so I don't have to deal with the dimming light issue and a customer that just doesn't understand why it's doing it. This small battery goes right next to your amp and replaces any capacitor that you would be putting on it. Some call them a "cap killer" since they say it equivalents to a 100 1-farad capacitors.
This is the Kinetik HC600 and can be found from about $85 to $100+
This is the Kinetik HC600 and can be found from about $85 to $100+
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#13
if hes running to small of a fuse it will cause dimming issuses because the amp is starving for power and it causes it to take away from truck. he needs atleast a 250amp fuse on that. when i had my three 1000d crossfire amps and 6 viair 480 compressors going i had a 500 amp fuse and no problems what so ever.
#15
if hes running to small of a fuse it will cause dimming issuses because the amp is starving for power and it causes it to take away from truck. he needs atleast a 250amp fuse on that. when i had my three 1000d crossfire amps and 6 viair 480 compressors going i had a 500 amp fuse and no problems what so ever.