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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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2spd controller from dc controls

well i just purchased one i dunno how long it will take me to get it but is the 79 buck controller worth a crap seemed to be, i just hope it doesnt take forever with these guys, i have heard some horror stories but seeing as everyone recommends them it cant be too bad... or can it? tell me what u think i should expect.. thanks
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 02:44 AM
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my cousin ordered one today to setup his 05 f150 with a mark 8 fan...i heard dc controls are awesome as well?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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yeah i heard the same, i didnt get any emails from the seller stating he recieved a payment and when to expect the controller though, guess im just gonna be waiting but i would at least like to know how long or even him acknowledge my payment would be great, i ordered the cheapest controller they had. it was just called 2spd controller im hoping it will be sufficient enough for a mark VIII fan..
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenminix
yeah i heard the same, i didnt get any emails from the seller stating he recieved a payment and when to expect the controller though, guess im just gonna be waiting but i would at least like to know how long or even him acknowledge my payment would be great, i ordered the cheapest controller they had. it was just called 2spd controller im hoping it will be sufficient enough for a mark VIII fan..
i seen the ad..its states all 2 spd ford fans including taurus...so it has to work!?!?..my cousin recieved email and all paying for the controller
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Im going to go with the Spal V3 controller and dual pro comp fans. Controller is about $125 shipped and $60 for the dual fans. I heard that its the conroller that usually fails and any fan setup can get the job done with a good CFM output. And the Spal controller can either use the OEM temp sensor or one made by Spal. Will probably get this setup just before summer hits.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Im going to go with the Spal V3 controller and dual pro comp fans. Controller is about $125 shipped and $60 for the dual fans. I heard that its the conroller that usually fails and any fan setup can get the job done with a good CFM output. And the Spal controller can either use the OEM temp sensor or one made by Spal. Will probably get this setup just before summer hits.
Good afternoon sir. How y'all doing?

I believe you are making a mistake - the Procomp fans are junk.

They do NOT run anywhere near their advertised cfm ratings under real-life load conditions.

It takes enormous energy to move ~2500 cfm through an A/C condenser and a rad - hence the high current draw of the fan indicated below (for example), or any fan truly capable of moving the required volume @ a real-world static pressure drop.

You WILL NOT FIND any such detailed specs for a ProComp fan, because the fan is junk - the tiny motor, and low current spec is telling.

Please refer to the info & links in this post: https://www.f150online.com/forums/4096657-post2.html.

Go with SPAL fans or similar quality - not some cheap knockoffs. You are getting a terrific controller - do not compromise a crucial engine cooling system with cheap fans! ?Not the place to nickel&dime things.

Yes you will find any number of folks claiming the fans are great - well all I can say 10 million flies are still wrong - chit is, at the end of the day, still chit.

I hope this helps, and you take this in the spirit in which it was intended - to help you.

Cheers & bests!

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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Thanks, I will definitly look into some other fans, Just dont want to spend an enormous amount of cash on these.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Thanks, I will definitly look into some other fans, Just dont want to spend an enormous amount of cash on these.
Roger that, sir. I do agree that the good ones, new, are not inexpensive.

The other possibility is using that controller to drive LS1 dual fans. Late-model units from the wreckers are in the $100 range. These cool hi-perf GM V8's just fine.

Thanks for being civil!

Cheers!

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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Thats what I will probably end up doing, I prefer a dual fan thats why I havent considered a Mark Viii fan. I just found this fan kit http://www.ffdynamics.com/f15034B.html seems reasonable but they dont say much about the controller and thats what Im worried about more so than the actual fan.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Good afternoon sir. How y'all doing?

I believe you are making a mistake - the Procomp fans are junk.

They do NOT run anywhere near their advertised cfm ratings under real-life load conditions.

It takes enormous energy to move ~2500 cfm through an A/C condenser and a rad - hence the high current draw of the fan indicated below (for example), or any fan truly capable of moving the required volume @ a real-world static pressure drop.

You WILL NOT FIND any such detailed specs for a ProComp fan, because the fan is junk - the tiny motor, and low current spec is telling.

Please refer to the info & links in this post: https://www.f150online.com/forums/4096657-post2.html.

Go with SPAL fans or similar quality - not some cheap knockoffs. You are getting a terrific controller - do not compromise a crucial engine cooling system with cheap fans! ?Not the place to nickel&dime things.

Yes you will find any number of folks claiming the fans are great - well all I can say 10 million flies are still wrong - chit is, at the end of the day, still chit.

I hope this helps, and you take this in the spirit in which it was intended - to help you.

Cheers & bests!

MGD v2.1e

thanks mgd
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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so is the controller good enough for the mark 8 fan?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Gordo did u get an email from dc controls or a
receipt from paypal? I got an email from paypal
But didn't get one from dccontrols.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by stevenminix
Gordo did u get an email from dc controls or a
receipt from paypal? I got an email from paypal
But didn't get one from dccontrols.
same here..only a paypal receipt...i believe its brian?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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Thats what I will probably end up doing, I prefer a dual fan thats why I havent considered a Mark Viii fan. I just found this fan kit http://www.ffdynamics.com/f15034B.html seems reasonable but they dont say much about the controller and thats what Im worried about more so than the actual fan.

I have used fans from FF Dynamics. The fan is nice. I would say they are comparable to the SPAL, maybe even the same fan just molded in a different color guarding. The motor is nice and beefy.
I personally did not like the controller. Not that is didn't work, but I am not a fan of relying on a thermocouple that gets stuck in fins of your radiator. I ended up using SPAL controller which are very nice and worth the extra cash. They are programmable, use your existing temp sensor, and wire into your factory harness. It is not a plug and play thing so you do have to tap into the factory wiring.
The other thing I did not like about the FF kit was the mounting. They give you zip tie things to mount the fan thru the radiator core. To me it just seemed like you were asking for trouble with the fan vibrating and wearing on the radiator core. I bought a universal mounting kit that bolts the fan to whatever you want. If you are interested I have pictures somewhere of the set up I had in my Jeep.

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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Good day folks.

OK - I'll say this again - Buyer Beware.

I referring to this from FF's website - the same website where you will not find any proper technical details on their fans. Why - well, because they too are not what they claim to be.

"We use the most efficient fan set up that will not burden your electrical system like some other e-fans on the market. We know that older vehicles do not have the best electrical systems. Yet, other companies don't take that into consideration and sell products that draw over 30 amps, which is ridiculous. We will provide you with our best possible cooling fan at the lowest possible amp draw, most will come in at around 10 amps for the entire set up (depending on your specific vehicle). We take all factors into the designing of our kits and the electrical system will not be overlooked when we put together a kit for you and we will bring you up to date in cooling with our efficient technology."


Simpe physics tells us that there is no such thing as a free ride. Spal's most powerful fans, Derale's largest fans, and several Ford OEM fans are all very efficient reverse-S curved bladed fans. BUT - ALL of them draw huge amounts of current while drawing the required CFM - under actual load.

Why you may ask? Because it takes Energy to do this. With only 12 vdc to work with ( and given P=ExI) you need a large amount of current draw to do any real work.

To suggest that FF fans are the same as Spal's means they would also be drawing the same current as Spal's. They are not.

An analogy that may be helpful is the case of different power tool ratings/capability. In ALL cases, the units drawing the most current will outperform the lighter-duty/lower wattage units. There is no free lunch.

Do you not think Spal, and the others, would be producing 6,000 cfm fans that draw only 9 amps if they could? That's only 9x12 - 72 watts, folks. A pittance, and absolutely not anywhere remotely enough to pull several thousand cubic feet of air per minute through a rad core + a/c core. Not. Possible. Period.

The large Ford fans require 80-100 amp rated relays & fuses! The premium controllers Spal's or DCcontrols supply enormous currents. Why? For a reason. They have to.

My considered opinion - and I do Stress once again that I am NOT forcing this down anyone's throat - is that the FF fans are not any better than ProComps - ergo, knockoffs. The published ratings tell me this. The disturbing lack of full disclosure of technical specs tells me this. Unlike Procomp - FF is price-gouging to boot. I for one do not trust them one bit.

Very sorry. My truck, a daily driver, is too important to me to run a marginal product.

I think I am going to put the entire subject of e-fans to rest. All the info I've presented can be independently confirmed and is all in the public domain - it's your call whether or not you want to believe it or not. That changes the facts not one whit.

For those who do believe in free energy, I think you are prime candidates for an HHO system,

Take care.

MDG v2.1e out.
 

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