Frustrated With Troyer's E-Fans And Their Services

Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Good day gentlefolk;

If I may be allowed the courtesy to offer my views on this I'd be eternally grateful .

First, I believe that the relays themselves are adequately sized for the application.

Where I have seen problems is the actual spade/lug interface, and /or the spade's actual method of attachement to the wiring.

If the connection is in any way loose, then the resistance of said connection is higher than normal - hence local heating - with subsequent melting - can occur. Similarly, if the crimp-on wire/connector junction is not soldered & protected with heatshrink the same issues can arise.

If either/both of these can't be corrected due to the relay block's construction, then replacements, if they are still made the same way, will be of no help. And the installer is not at fault. That seems to be the case here.

I am in no way minimizing the OP's plight and frustration. But unless a monetary soultion or a redesigned unit is put into play, the frustration will continue.

I would, personally, replace the controller with one of another design. Yes, this involves an additional outlay (hopefully offset by any compensatory remedy), because on balance the fans themselves are excellent.

If in-place remediation is not in the cards, then see not other way off this merry-go-round save for removing the entire unit and selling it, replacing the stock assembly, or going with another product.

Saying that I think it's worth it to try and address the root cause.

One other thing to try: a product called Stabilant. The connections should be made reasonably tight(er), and any suspect joints soldered. You will also need to ensure no moisture can enter the assembly afterwards. AZ's idea has merit.

==> http://www.stabilant.com.au/body_wha...ilant_22_.html

For the record, I do own one of these controllers - it is still working in another application. 6+ years.

OP - another thread that may help is this one - these is some good linked info in there: ==> https://www.f150online.com/forums/to...ng-e-fans.html

In closing, Sirs - the info & perspective I just conveyed is non-judgemental, and is for discussion purposes only.

I do not wish to engender any hostility in any form whatsoever.

I do wish to help in some small way - I know very little about such things...

Thanks for letting me participate & please take it easy on me

Cheers & Bests to all!

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tarajerame
what brand are the fans and controller???
Dunno, One thing though it says "Made In China"
 

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OGTerror
Dunno, One thing though is says "Made In China"
Well that's your problem, it should read "Made in Taiwan"
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by azmidget91
i dont have the troyer controllers i just use 3 relays and a temperature sensor, i did use some hefty wire though, probably 12 gauge, i just think that with them inside the cab they dont have to also deal with the under hood temps, especially for us who live in the desert
Can you give me more info on your setup. Or maybe some pics of how all the wiring is done would help. What tempeerature sensor did you use and how does that work over having a controler. I would like to get the Troyer efan then run the wiring and everything the way you did. Just trying to figure everything out so I dont have to deal with any issues. Or maybe I'll just run the normal Troyer setup for now, then get the SPAL controler when the Troyer one goes bad, if it does. I am still looking into other efans, but with my limited knowledge I think getting a kit would be better, Flex a lite is a little to spendy and I like the close fan that troyer offers.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Thankz for your detailed info MGDfan I just forwarded it to the shop where my truck sits since this morning. While we wait for a month or 2 before troyer finally decide to send the controllers, the shop is wiring the fan to the ignition; cause 2 thing has been happening since I wired the fans to a kill switch: 1, I either forget to turn the fans on and I overheat or I forget to turn them off so guess what my battery drains out. This has happened twice in 3 weeks and overheated countless time cause I keep forgetting to turn on the fans.

At first I thought troyer was a pain in the neck but now I'm starting to have a much lower opinion of him.

Aaawwwwwwwwww !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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sorry to hear about the fans Leo! I've been wanting to do Efans but I'm scared of it failing on me! I have a Thunderbird electric fan here at my shop and I'm thinking of just buying a controller and some heavy duty relays.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by che22879
sorry to hear about the fans Leo! I've been wanting to do Efans but I'm scared of it failing on me! I have a Thunderbird electric fan here at my shop and I'm thinking of just buying a controller and some heavy duty relays.
That is the other thing we have done was to upgraded to 40 amp relay switches they too cooked on me.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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If you find out a solution let me know! I know dave has run them with less problems but the troyer kit seems like garbage!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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That sucks, I was planing to buy Troyer e-fans but I have read lots of problems from there set up. I can't have my truck over heating! Is there a better kit that I can buy because for the price Troyer charges it should work as fine as the price is for there kit. What does Troyer say about this problem? Has he fixed the problem our still can't fix the problem like Toyota lol.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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damn my opinion changed too! sounds like im gona have to create a kit!?!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FATHERFORD
LS1 fans with fan controller from any local auto parts store.....

Been using that setup since 2004. Total Cost $125
can you show us your set up?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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and can we order them from NAPA or VATOzone or CSK

what year of LS1 and what vehicle caprice or slomarao?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tarajerame
and can we order them from NAPA or VATOzone or CSK

what year of LS1 and what vehicle caprice or slomarao?
I just watch Ebay for camaro/firebird/corvette fans. Scour the local junk yard also. I actually think LT1 fans are the same. I haven't checked out caprice's, but they just might be the same setup.

I've picked them up as low as $50 sometimes, then told around and resold for $100.

The controller is from just about any parts store. I posted the number somewhere on this forum.

As far as pics, I got some somewhere, I have to see if I can dig them out. I did have to make two small brackets that any do it yourself mechanic can do.

Once again, I have read 2010 F-150's come with electric fans. I'm willing to bet they will bolt right up to our 04-08 model trucks. Even if they are $250 from the factory, that would be worth it imo to have electric OEM fans made for our trucks.

Here are the only pics I have of it... Man these are old I still had a stock intake! Ignore my crappy wiring job, I did this before I learned the "art" of wiring.


 

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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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yeah ima check out what f.f. said..i dont want any overheating issues in the future
 
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