Puts a smile in my day!

 

Why is it no substance, just bravado????? 99svtlightning said to bolt it on and bring it to the 1320, that sounds as if people want to see results not just talk, I know I do!!!!! It is easy to sit back and run your mouth without backing it up. If you are going to talk the talk you gotta walk the walk!! I would love to see how my stock blower does against your super effecient one

 

A better question is ... Who was he before he changed screen names and will he contribute positively to the forum or continue to post negative attacking posts....

Doug

 

as a joke, i slipped Brasky a "Metamucil Mickey" one morning, and now there's a 12ft crater, where our master bathroom use to be!!

 

The pattern continues.

 

and on the next episode of "as the blower spins"

BAH!

 

Hey Doug,
Too bad you're more into censoring and promoting your buddies than letting the info flow.

 

I have watched/read/"lurked" this forum for two years,prior to the year I have been active in it. Many have come & gone. Truckn-you do not have to agree with anyone on this forum.Your posts ARE disruptive & personal. Please allow all info pertaining to our L's be posted without immature replies or attacks. If you have had a bad experience,post it with data why,but without dragging every post down to your current level. Agree to disagree. I may or may not agree/support every vendor/tuner, but I WANT to read ALL they have to post. The knowledge each of us selects from these posts may help each of our own L's & may help most L owners, but maybe not all. If a person or people continually berates someone then knowledge,info,trial-&-error will eventually dry up. The forum will suffer, and the very thing that brought you & every one else here will dry up,also. This response is by no means to flame you,but hopefully to get you to alter your view on posting here on this forum. No insults are intended. Are we or this post going to evolve into the "suppression police"? Think about it,please.

 

One advantage that L and Harley(02) owners have is that our trucks are already designed with a supercharger. All we are replacing is the blower itself, not all the other support pieces that cause all the aggravation. Plus, once JL tests the new blower, he'll know what chip calibrations are necessary for the L. This is an upgrade for L owners -- we are just moving the air more efficiently through an engine that already is designed for a supercharger. Admittedly, the rods will have to be replaced if you exceed a sane amount of boost, but even the stock Eaton will do that.

As far as the Works blower, I've got two concerns: First, have any of the major L tuners posted a timeslip, and put their reputation behind it? Maybe I missed it? Secondly, Believe it or not, there's a lot of us that think changing the sparkplugs is already a pain in the posterior. I'd rather not have to pull the blower intake manifold to complicate the job even more. Does it unbolt at the casing, or will you have to pull the entire assembly?

 

There were tons of people who said the Lightning would never hit the 12's. Then they said it wouldn't hit the 11's. Now you are saying that the KB is too restrictive of a blower to make the power...come on now??? Where do you get your flow numbers? How many 3D CAD/CAM drawings and algorithms have you performed to get your qualified results? A few years ago did you think almost 5000lb truck would be tearing up Vipers and Z06's? I don't think your measurement of effeciency are any better than the people stating there is no way a 5k lb truck w/ a small modular V8 can run 10's.

 

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

 

I think Fast Gator has the idea for the best blower




I just want to see a nice set of dyno comparisons: stock, works blower, KB blower. Nothing else allowed but blower swaps.

 

Hey DOUG,
I have a ton of spare time. Ban me so I can come back under another screen name and bash the HELL out of everyone!!!! SOUNDS LIKE FUN

Geeze truckn, dont you have anything better to do??

Jason

 

Come on, now - would it be fair for someone to advertise, without paying to be a supporting vendor? I know that Paul usually keeps that stuff off of the board, because of that very reason.

However, think about it this way - If you owned a billboard, and Billy Bo-Bob PAID to advertise his restaurant on it - But then, I put up an ad for my restaurant, covering his paid advertisement, what would you do? I'll tell you - you'd take care of it, as to avoid conflict with the one who PAID to use the space.

The information got posted - people opposed the KB blower, and explained themselves. They have every right to do so, and you don't see Doug deleting THOSE posts, no do you??

These vendors pay good money, so that they can make posts saying "Check out my new product! It's great, and you should buy one!" In case you didn't notice - that's business. DEAL with it. It's not because Doug is a JDM/JLP/PSP ****, and doesn't want people to hear information that might make people think - it's because the vendors supply the money that KEEPS THIS BOARD UP!

Think of this board like a TV show (As the rotors turn ) - If people stop advertising - they can't run the show. If other people can advertise for FREE, why would you pay?

Will some people ever realize that nothing in the world is free?

 

Yep, you got that right. Like bluetooth said, I don't have to agree with anyone on here. I hate to say it but I post when I see a need to pipe up and speak my mind, I don't post the usual chatter almost everyone else does to prove I'm one of the guys, or just to run my mouth/fingers. this is not the corner bar for me.

I posted my experiences and since apparently so few people on here have experience with KB for example - or are afraid to sound off since they'll be attacked by the JL trolls - my data isn't well liked.

Like any group, tuners tend to attract like-minded people. Like-minded people tend to reinforce each other and that way of thinking. It is therefore important to realize that any group tends to reflect more of the mindset of the members than the realities of the tuner or his products.

So far all that's been posted are schoolyard antics, flashy generalities, and one-dimensional, blanket statements that sound real good on the surface but don't make much sense when examined from a logical, pragmatic perspective, flat unattributed statements (such as "everybody knows"). And these are posted by egos of all sorts, "bench-racers" (people who only know what works under controlled conditions with rules and who speak with blind confidence about those techniques applying to all situations), people who want to post opinions, but are too lazy to do the research to support these contentions, and Internet trolls of all kinds.

I don't have another screenname Doug and I'm not here to bash. I pipe up, good or bad, when I feel motivated to. Now I saw the "Naked Truth" threads and agree with you there, those are harmful atttacks meant to do nothing but smear. But you seem to want a one-sided view on the boards here. I haven't attacked JL once. I just ask him and his followers, over and over, to explain why the KB blower with its shortcomings, and Bell, can possible be better compared to the other products already on the market. So far no-one has a single answer.

Totaled, you say "Why is it no substance, just bravado????? " It's no substance because he does not have answer explaining why a small top-inlet blower which is a known deficiency, is better than a bigger rear inlet blower. I asked a simple question and the best anyone can come up with is "SEE YA AT THE TRACK!!!!! I BET YOU DONT EVEN GOT NO LIGHTNIGN!!!!!!!"

LOCOSVT, you say "As far as the Works blower, I've got two concerns: First, have any of the major L tuners posted a timeslip, and put their reputation behind it? Maybe I missed it?" Yes you did miss it. Sal ran 10's on it at 127 mph, and has run 127 mph at other tracks since then according to the posts and info on the race sites.

99svtlightning, you say "There were tons of people who said the Lightning would never hit the 12's. Then they said it wouldn't hit the 11's. Now you are saying that the KB is too restrictive of a blower to make the power...come on now???"

Don't try to put words in my mouth. I didn't say anything about "the KB being too restrictive to make the power". I asked, "How can a top-inlet blower smaller blower be better than a rear-inlet bigger one?" You can't even come up with an answer.

You go on to say "Where do you get your flow numbers? How many 3D CAD/CAM drawings and algorithms have you performed to get your qualified results?"

Uh gee, I didn't claim to get flow numbers, I am quoting Jim Bell himself in the article where he says his blower takes a 10% hit in efficiency due to the top inlet.

Next time Why don't you read the message you're responding to before spouting off?

You even say "I don't think your measurement of effeciency are any better than the people stating there is no way a 5k lb truck w/ a small modular V8 can run 10's."

What measurement of efficiency am I using?? Hmmm??? All I'm doing is quoting KB.

Bluetooth, I will say this, you make some very valid points and I agree that the participants on this forum should be mature enough to agree to disagree. Sadly that is not the case. And if you don't believe me I'll send Bill Brasky over to beat you over the head with a box of frozen fish sticks.