Good one MRBBQMAN.

I just wanted to know what the mix up was. Nothing implied.

Sal might have dialed back on the juice for reliability with 2 days of racing in front of him. Setting a new best at the risk of breaking something won't help you win in bracket racing.

 

That totally sucks man!!!!!! I guess when you are close to the top you have no friends............This community is beginning to suck big time

 

Shaun from JDM Qualified and Drove my Truck in Eliminations. He was Data Logging my Truck to Tune my new Engine. It was a Good Race with JL, with Johnny winning and nobody complaining. Everyone was talking to each other in the Staging Lanes before Eliminations and No One had any Complaints Before.

The E.T.s are getting so that some Gen 2s need a Roll Cage .


Quote; " red gen 1 94 That totally sucks man!!!!!! I guess when you are close to the top you have no friends............This community is beginning to suck big time"

Jim

 

One more Thing, (another .02)

This should not take anything away from JLs Win. Both Jim from JDM and JL were really cutting Good R/Ts from the timeslips I saw.

 

I thought everyone was getting along fine at WFC5, even the tuners. I guess we all learned a few things about registering and racing at events in the future.

It was like being at a East Coast tuner shootout...The tuners really have came a long way with our trucks since last year, they really have our truck running fast. (thank goodness for the introduction of larger Pulleys)

This isn't a smart *** question, not trying to stir things up, just want to know the rules:
Can we register our trucks under our name and get some other drivers names added to our trucks to race? (like having an alternate driver in 24 hours of Daytona, can we have the driver/owner and more than 1 additional driver ?) Can one truck sign up and have let's say maybe 3 people driving it that day?

 

Oh well Jim I guess that's how it goes sometimes!

But I was simply amazed that you could tune an 02 Lightning with only a lower pulley, JDM chip, throttle body, air kit, full JDM exhaust, JDM traction bars with Hoosier's to run a 12.02. I saw that run and know that you could have ran 11.90's with no problem. I talked with the owner of that truck because I thought there was no way you could run 12.02 with just those few mods with the stock coverter and stock internals, but the mods above was all that was on the truck. My hats off to you Jim, you sure can tune a GenII!

 

silly question, but other than an air filter, what is there until you go to NOS or aftermarket blower?

also, what was the weight on the truck?

seems like that should be about right on what the truck should run,

i've only run 12.49, but i am running a taller tire, killing my gear, and am pigging at close to 4900 lbs, and, a conservative tune

 

Franks truck is one fast True Blue 02 L with stock internals and just a few mods.

That was one Big Lower pulley on that bad a$$ JDM tuned truck.

HankFan, your laying it on pretty thick. Keep it up, JIM may let you run his 99 one day.. just kidding around..


JDM did have some fast tuned trucks at WFC5.

 

I had a few more and a few less of those mods and went 11's with stock convertor & internals with my PSP powered 01. I even had my stock Throttle Body. The power is in the tune for sure, but remember some trucks will be faster than others....

 

and the aggressiveness of the tune

 

JL installed a chip with a conservative tune on a stock 2000L at the track with a 100 wet shot of NOS. I believe it ran a 12.01 or 12.10 in the Street Truck class.

That's pretty fast for a truck with just Chip & NOS. JL seems to be getting these NOS trucks flying now also.

 

Well, we just got in, and of course I expected this kind of post to be here.

First off, let me say that I had a great time at the event, and I think for the most part, it went well, considering it rained out Thursday and Friday. All 4 major Lightning vendors were there, everyone had a good time, and there was no tension all weekend until this crap.

I got a bit screwed myself, as I was the number 2 qualifier in Pro Lightning, with an 11.40 gen 1 faster than me. However he did not have a legal bar in his truck, he just had a 4 point, and should not have been allowed to run under 12.00. I should have been number 1 qualifer in Pro, and then I would have had the bye run into first round instead of him, and would not have met Jim first round.

I ran Jim driving Franks truck in first round, and since I was still having problems with the truck shutting down at the 1000ft, I couldn't run my dial. Jim beat me fair and square, and that's racing. I went back to the pits, and started to pack it up, then I headed to the tower for my 4:30 scheduled PA interview. After that, I went searching the pits for Mike Wesley, do discuss the problem with my truck, and as I was talking to him, I was called to the tower.

I went there and walked in the control room, and they told me I was back in. I asked if it was because of the kid with the roll bar, and they said no, it was because my first round opponent was disqualified. So I went back to the pits and got the truck ready again.

While I was waiting to run next round, I had several people approach me asking if I knew what happened, because they had been blamed for "ratting Jim out". I also had a JDM customer accuse me of getting Jim DQed, and this person also said this only happened because I was sponsoring the class. It never ceases to amaze me how one-minded some people can be.

I caught Jim leaving the track, and explained to him all that I knew on what happened, and that I had nothing to do with it. I told him that I knew all weekend he was driving Franks truck, and Sean was driving Jim Rs truck, and that to my knowledge, there was no rule against that. I could tell he did not believe me then, and since in his post he is insinuating that since I got called back to the tower shortly after my interveiw about this that it was me who complained, he still does not believe me. These are the "assumptions" that start rumors and keep the tuner wars going. Someday this will all end.

Now, as for the rest of the event, I ran JL in the semis. The truck was pulling hard catching up to him, but then the truck shut down at the 1000 ft again. It would have been a close race. JL did tree the crap out of me too. Congrats to JL for taking the win in the final as well.

As for my trucks performance, the new fuel system was giving us fits, but we got most of it fixed. But the truck was still shutting down at the 1000ft. We couldn't get decent 60s either, I think my best was a 1.68. However, the truck was still turning over 100mph in the 1/8 mile, so the power is there, we just have to get it to stay working all the way to the end .

Congrats to all who did well, hopefully everyone had a safe trip home, and I hope everyone had a good time, as that it the number one factor I take into consideration every year when we sponsor the Lightning classes.

 

Hey Sal, good to see you're back. Looks like you had a good time. You are sneaking up on the tune-up now.

I hate the politics, too. But they will never go away, will they? It kind of looks like the rules are enforced at the disgression of the promoters. But that's racing. Just let your truck do the talking.

Congratulations to JL on his win. It looks like there were a lot of trucks there. That has to say something about the support that has been generated for this event by the Lightning community.

To that I say, congratulations to all who competed.

 

Hope Frank doesn't get mad at me for this. I just wanted to help everyone understand why he is running so good, I'm sure Frank is in the high 11's with his present setup. Congrats on having a very fast truck.

He had a 8-9 lb Lower Crank pulley on his truck, No upper. At least we know that adding more boost on the lower pulley does deliver more power even with the more heat created.

I think he used a prototype Lower 8-9 lb pulley, either the same type or similar one that JL is coming out with very soon.

WoW, That's a lot of boost and the stock rods are taking it, Cool.

Sal, thanks for sponsoring the truck class. This was my first WFC5 and I had a great time. It was worth the long drive I made to meet a lot of new people and hang out with some old friends also.

 

All.......

As I have said in another post.......

I take all the blame for the fiasco in the first round of eliminations for Pro Lightning. I should have seen this coming, and I didn't. Sal, JL and everyone else involved in the Pro Lightning class, knew that Jim was driving my truck all day on Saturday. He made every pass in it, and was out of the truck in the staging lanes talking to fellow participants. There was no intent to deceive anyone on my part, or Jim's. Those statements to the contrary are just plain nonsense. When George Gonzales, the WFC5 event promoter, advised me of the disqualification, I asked him if I could personally have a re-run against Sal, or could Jim sign the driver portion of my "yellow sheet" and re-run Sal? George said that he did not have a problem with that, as long as Sal did not object. He left for a few minutes to confer with Sal on his cell, and returned with a thumbs down jesture, saying that Sal declined my request. These are the facts......nothing more, nothing less. It was Sal's call, and he made the decision not to have a re-run.

I am a little surprized that no one objected on Saturday, but waited until Sunday to do so. Personally, if I would have had a similar objection to another driver on Saturday, I would have made an issue of it then. But then, thats me, and obviously not everyone else. I can live and learn from my mistake, and I hold no ill will against anyone. Thats Racin'.....and 'ol Franko will be back

DL.....There is certainly no secret about my mods. They are all "bolt-ons" purchased from JDM, with the exception of the BABOLT throttle body,
and a lower pulley of my own design and specifications. Depending on whose "boost pound increment scale" you use, it is aprox. 7.5 lb increase, and my boost gauge reads 16 at WOT. The key to the "secret" performance of my truck, in my opinion, was the four hours that Jim and Shawn spent fine tuning my flip-chip. I had previously only run my truck on side 1 (street). Jim was the first to run my truck on side 2 (race), on Saturday, and this too was by design, as I felt more confident with him listening for potential problems than me. The other unknown element here is the fact that no two of these trucks are exactly alike. Some are just going to be a little quicker right off the showroom floor. I was just lucky with this one. My 2000 L, by comparison, was .76 slower bone stock, than the Blue '02.