Here is the link to my album of pictures that shows the lower pulley from JDM. This install was the first install on a 01 that wasnt done at JDM. Jim had faith in me as well as Totaled, and I have been a mechanic for 15 years so it wasnt too bad at all.. I am sure JDM will post about lower pullies as soon as his new Cage/brackets arrive. Unlike other pullies on the market, this one retains the lower cage/bracket, for obvious reasons. safety, and reliability. Not to mention that JDM's looks closer to stock than others that throw away the cage/bracket.

The 01's require modification of the lower pulley bracket/cage. This is why JDM has not shipped any out for 01's. They have all been done at JDM except for mine. I am under the impression that he is going to make available an already modified bracket/cage for future installations.

The bottom line is that JDM could have just shipped out every single pulley and said "here you go", but he took his time, installed a few at his shop and made sure it was right. I hope everyone respects this about him, I know I do.

I do not know about the 99 and 00's. I think there is something different and easier about them. I am in the process of finding out more about this.

I have been given permission by JDM to make the installation available at my shop in Columbia Maryland. If anyone wants to come to my shop for installation, I will be happy to do it for you as long as you can leave the truck with me for the entire day.

www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292448629

This installation isnt that hard if you already know what you are doing, but if you are the DIY type of person, you should leave it up to a professional...

I hope this clears up some of the questions that have had so many people upset at this situation.. JJ

 

jj, Good job on the pulley, I think your workmanship showed yesterday on your first run with the pulley!!! I am not going to attempt the pulley on my '00 because I am the type of person who just make things not work if going into a project somewhat blind, not saying I couldn't do it, I just feel comfortable letting someone else do it who has done it before. I am going to get the pulley, electric fan and possibly the traction bars from Jim in september and go up for a visit and give Julie's tannin' bed a lap around the track<---- Well, I look forward to seeing you at Hagerstown, I am glad you decided to come. Tell your friend to bring his R/T, to at least make me look good...LOL. I hope the traction is better in Hagers than it was at VMP yesterday. Talk with ya later.

 

JJ do you care to comment more on this quote? Do you have any data on this? I'm just curious because I have not heard anything of this nature before. Thanks Jeff

 

Jeff,

I was told at my dealer by the SVT tech that it is in fact safer to keep the cage intact as it reduces stress on the crank...that's why I've been waiting for a caged one myself.

Jim

 

Thanks Jim. I thought everyone knew about the stress issue... If you look at how the cage and bracket are bolted to the engine you will understand how it keeps the added pressure off the crank.

 

JJ,
Good job!! You should of hung around and went to the lobster with us. Thanks for your help yesterday!!

 

Thanks Jim (Totaled)....... I owe it all to you.... and JDM... but mostly to you for talking Jim into sending me one and assuring him I could do it..

I didnt know you all were going to Lobster, but It turns out I had to get home anyway.. got a call from dogsitter and she couldnt come let them out after 5pm.. so I had to go take care of my boyz.... ..

I put my JDM windshield banner on my Civic Si today.. looks sweet....... LOL..... Its on the L.......

Are you going to make Hagerstown?? let me know....

I am having a party for a freind of mine on Sat night, maybe you all could come to my house after the track.. I am only 40 mins away and I have some entertainment coming to this party around 10:30 or so.... I would love to see a whole bunch of L's on my street and in my driveway.. everyone is invited... just let me know....... JJ

 

JJ Thanks for the Post, and pics. It should make it a lot easier when I have to put my pullie on. I was told it was being shipped on friday, but after reading your post about a modified cage, I am wondering.

 

JJ,
I am going to FFW at Bristol this weekend so I won't be able to make it up there but thanks for the invite!!

 

Good luck Totaled and have fun.. I will put a dollar in the "entertainments" thong in your name..... Talk to you soon..... JJ

 

I don't think everyone knows about the added stress. Here is another quote from a well known Lightning owner about stesses..

;. The stock cage set up
was designed to support the heavy weight of the stock pulley. The entire
stock set up with the rubber mounted pulley, was designed to reduce the
noise created by the blower, since the normal "whine" was not acceptable
for
production purposes. Removing the rubber isolated stock pulley allows that
noise to come back, so having the cage with a solid mounted pulley negates
the original design reason for having it. Some people say that removing
the
cage puts extra stress on the crank. Theoretically, that makes sense. But
on
our set up, with our kind of blower, the extra "pull" on the crank is
barely
measuarbale. Let me explain. Crank stress issues are common concerns in
the
racing world, but only on vehicles that use solid tension adjusters. When
a
guy with a Vortech super tighetens his belt to eliminate slip, that
stresses
the crank snout. On our trucks, our blowers use a spring loaded belt
tensioner. Any excessive "pull" from the blower is absorbed by the
tensioner, NOT the crankshaft, that's why it's there. Think about it;
superchargers have been used for over 50 years on production cars. Do any
other models use crank supports? NO. Do the worlds greatest aftermarket
car
builders like Roush, Saleen, and Kenne Bell use them on thier dealer sold
and fully warrentied new blown cars? NO. Did Ford use on on the
SuperCoupe.
NO. Do SuperCoupes have problems with the cranks failing from blower
stress?
NO. Millions and millions of blown vehciles exsist today, and the only
ones
that suffer from crank issues, are ones where the belts have been
overtightened to reduce slip. There is also another issue on this subject
that many have not caught on to. The caged pulley set up is driven off the
adapter bolted to the crank. Now, lets take off the stock setup and press
the stock pulley off to re-use the cage and install a new solid, cage
mounted pulley. You take the new pulley, press the new bearing in, press
the
assembly back onto the cage an place it on the truck. You now screw the
pulley back onto the adapter and bolt the cage back on. You now have a
fully
solid caged pulley. When you pressed that new pulley on, did you know
EXACTLY where to stop? Everything is now soild mounted, so if you're off a
thousands of an inch, guess what, your new pulley is now either PUSHING or
PULLING on the crank! Say bye-bye to your thrust bearing after a little
while Sometimes you have to look deeper than the obvious when you are
deciding on new products ;

I guess time will tell if one is "better" than the other or if they are equally as safe. Jeff

 

I did not start this thread to start a discussion on who's lower pulley is better.. Take that somewhere else.. I started this thread to give people an idea of what it takes to do it.

I did alot of research on which way I wanted to go with my pullies.. lower, upper, etc... I finally decided to go with one that I thought would be best for me, and my truck. I also took into consideration the comments and thoughts of fellow L owners that I have met.

I DO NOT want this thread to turn into "who's pulley is best" ... and if it does, I am requesting that the moderator close this thread.............

 

I agree, in theroy the the non-cage pulley should put more stress on the crank. But in this case I really dont think it matters because of the spring loaded tensioners as stated above. On our truck we use the PSP pulley and have hod no problems, even when pounding it with nitrous.

 

seems the only trucks with the JDM pulleys are the 01 owners. most of the 99-00 owners had their money in Jims hands before any of your trucks were even built. is this a "who you know" thing, or a completely different pulley, or just another good business decision

 

I totally agree with ya JJ, Sorry to bring this up, but can someone clarify something for me. Is this person that jeffslightning is quoteing talking about the blower pulley in the last paragragh or the inner pulley turning the alternater and power steering pump? I am kinda confused about that. I don't see how modifying the cage/bracket is going to affect the crank on an '01 L. I know for my application it is just going to be a quick swap and the cage/bracket will not be moved or removed. I know Ford put that bracket there for a reason and I do not feel comfortable taking a piece of the engine off that looks like it supports the crank and I believe it does. It really seems to me and I repeat, "its just me", that somebody is just trying to sell parts with a quote like that.