Once again, apples and oranges.

CARB approval/Executive Orders say only that the device has been tested and does not adversely effect the emissions. That says nothing about whether it destroys the engine.

As an aside, the EPA test loops used by CARB do not take the engine into WOT. Which is how all of these supercharger kits qualify.

BTW, it's nice to have a new member who didn't sleep through English class.

 

I've got over 20k on my KB using a open element filter and a phenolic spacer. Guess I have a freak blower. I'm not buying the filter explanation for a minute.

 

Let me make sure I understand what you're saying. You observed the same or slightly higher IAT1 temps with a metal box filter kit, vs. a plain open filter kit, when the IAT1 sensor was mounted in the same place both times?

 

Well I did some data logging this morning to see for myself what my inlet temps where with the Air raid box and filter.

The ambient temps where beetween 65-70deg this morning per my overhead in the truck. I was in and out of traffic and then some times @ 55-70mph on the hwy. The IAT was never more then 5-10deg above ambient the enitre time I was moving. When I came to a stop it would increase the longer I sat there but never got over 100deg under the hood.

My IAT sensor is installed in the metal filter box and it sits at the base of the filter just before the MAF. The IAT2 was just about 30-35deg hotter then the IAT1 reading for the most part. Short blasts of moderate boost 10-12psi would actually drop the IAT2 reading, and when the throttle was closed the IAT2 reading would always go up atleast 5-10deg. I think my setup is doing more then a adequate job of keeping things in check with regard to inlet tempatures.

Bob

 

I noticed the same with mine Bob. Without re-typing the whole thing I datalogged the exact same route of open and bumper to bumper traffic, same temps with my Airraid vs my open Swanson setup. To make it short, the open element never matched the inlet temps of the Airraid although on an extended cruise they got within 10-15 degrees. But during in-town driving the open element showed much higher temps and took MUCH longer to cool down once you started moving versus the enclosed Airraid. Not even close with as much as a 30-50 degree difference at points.

I think the write-up is on Tim Skelton's webpage.

Jody

 

It is.

 

Thanks Tim, I got a bit lazy!

Jody

 

I am sorry if I confused anyone. Let me be clear in stating that this was in comparison to the same exact conditions, but only at low speed driving ("In or around 100+ degree outside temperature conditions, and at very low speeds of moderate to heavy stop-in-go traffic"). My explanation for this is heat radiation from the metal surround.

I should have also pointed out that I did not use the "cool air" tubing, mainly because it didn't fit (was too short), and the fact that is rains and floods quite often in this area. I am positive that using the tubing would have helped to reduce IAT temps even more so, and allow for them to reduce at a quicker pace, but I am still leary of any airkit that uses metal for its surround.

Ivan Brown

 

Well I think I have a seal leaking between the front gears and the rotor pacs. Becides that I have had good luck with my KB.

I have run mine for two years, and it is now on it's 3rd season.

Near the end of last summer mine started to use oil, and now I have to check the level all the time. Becides the oil usage, and a little rattle at first start up first thing in the morning it just keeps on running.

I do have to admitt that I have run mine hard. I have about 40,000 miles and who knows how many 1/4 mile runs on my truck.

I was going to pull it off and send it in this past winter, but it was so cold and snowy this year I never got around to it. Once I get my Jeep back I will send it in and see why it is using oil.

 

A word of advise is just plan to be without your truck for a month plus. KB will take care of you; it is just gonna be on there own time frame which is pretty slow!

 

Funny...did you read this thread before throwing that egg???

The fellow that started this thread had his KB, back...installed and running in about 2 weeks.


Rocks


You guys with agenda's just look foolish to the people who know what's what around here.... .

 

Rocks

Funny...did YOU read the thread before throwing that egg....obviously not. Casey is a friend of Bob...He knows the KB is back on, he drove it at the track since. He was just stating....from experience...

Tim

 

If he read the thread, and is friends with Bob....then he really did have an agenda. I was trying not to call him a liar...but maybe you can clear it all up...NOOB... .


Rocks

 

It was more than 2 weeks for Bob; glad you know all about what is going on in Florida! Your in where Arkansas or Texas I can't remember

 

Just to clear a few things up from anyone’s misconceptions.

When my supercharger failed on 3/24/2005 I sent it back KB via 2nd day air the following day as well has had it returned to me via 2nd day air at my expense because my truck is a semi daily driver and I wanted it back as quickly as possible. Casey and I are in Florida and ground service to California is an easy 5 to 7 days from here, sometimes longer. They received my blower on 3/29/2005 due to a weekend but it took them 5 days to repair it. I had it picked up on 4/4/2005 and had it 2nd day air back to me. KB will only ship ground to return warranty-repaired superchargers; this is there policy as stated on the web site. In my situation my truck could have been easily down from 3/24/2005 to this week sometime (27 – 30 days if your counting) if I had not footed the bill for the express service both ways to have my supercharger repaired under warranty.

I am not griping about it I am mearly stating the facts regarding this issue. The freight charges where $244.00 for the shipping on my KB both ways FYI.


Bob